Maybe... 1 Raportează post Postat Iulie 19, 2006 According to Sartre, we have the feeling that we are free, but in fact we are not. There is freedom of conscience, in this respect the individual is free and master of his own choices (there is free will). In fact, we are condemned to be free ("Les Mouches"), that is we must assume responsibility and make decisions on our own (whether we know what to decide, whether we decide right or wrong, whether we are confused or not). Conventions keep the individual away from his freedom. We are never free of the others' judgement ("Huis-clos"), we live in a psychological hell with people around us passing judgements on us all the time. The Existentialists hold that the individual is controlled by social instances which escape his control. The social self (a surface self) is commanded by the others and by certain circumstances. From where does the absurd come? According to the Existentialists, from this clash between human consciousness (which is transparent) and the world (which is opaque, not revealing itself). I believe the problem is, if I am free, if I can do whatever I want, I will end up getting confused. Why? Because if God is dead (in the sense of values), if there are no more `standards' for moral values, how am I going to know what's right and what's wrong? If there's no more destiny, then the responsibility will weigh all the more on my shoulders, if I take a decision with bad consequences, then I will end up being held responsible instead of fate and am I strong enough to accept that?... I only exist function of the society in which I live and according to whose rules I must live. I must fashion and refashion myself according to its standards, I must play a variety of roles and act accordingly to be accepted, noticed, respected, etc. If there is a clash of values between me and the world, then I end up in loneliness, isolated from the world and its norms I do not want to respect. Is this freedom? I believe freedom is only in the mind, freedom of thought that is. More or less, as we are largely the products of different patterns of thought, ideologies circulating in a society at a given time... Partajează acest post Link spre post Distribuie pe alte site-uri
J0' 2 Raportează post Postat Iulie 24, 2006 (editat) Freedom is a relative word and a relative case , is all coming from inside :doh: is all in your had same for power and happynes :doh: Dont look for freedom "somewhere" out u will be disappointed Editat Iulie 24, 2006 de Joanna Partajează acest post Link spre post Distribuie pe alte site-uri
Miss Bitch 343 Raportează post Postat Iulie 24, 2006 We will be free when we won't have to make any decisions and take responsabilities. At all. Partajează acest post Link spre post Distribuie pe alte site-uri
Helene 23 2 Raportează post Postat Octombrie 11, 2006 I agree with Sartre. I loved Les Mouches and Huis-clos. Very good illustrated the philosophic ideas. Everyone must take responsability for the choices and actions one makes. Partajează acest post Link spre post Distribuie pe alte site-uri
Co||Co 0 Raportează post Postat Septembrie 13, 2010 I don't think we're ever truly free...only in thought ! Partajează acest post Link spre post Distribuie pe alte site-uri
lupini 4967 Raportează post Postat Decembrie 26, 2011 Some of us are free, and some of us are not. Topic closed. Partajează acest post Link spre post Distribuie pe alte site-uri