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Burel0015.272 mesaje#571

Dumneavoastra domnule ben_ gal va recomand sa va intre in cap[formularea va apartine] urmatoarele:

1-Forumul roportal are propriul regulament, care spune ca mesajele postate care il incalca, se invizibilizeaza[nu se sterg],adica raman vizibile doar pentru echipa de moderare.Daca considerati ca mesajele va sunt invizibilizate pe nedrept, atunci puteti face raport si daca alti moderatori sau admini vor considera ca aveti dreptate, mesajele in cauza vor fi din nou vizibile.

2-Pentru astfel de mesaje precum extrasele de mai jos care va apartin, pe viitor veti fi sanctionat .

"Maine va veni antonescu junior si va spune ca trebuie sa mori pt. ca stramosul de la matale era turk sau tatar sau patagonez si nu-ti va ajuta ca te-a fatat duhul sfint - vei muri in chinuri si nimanui nu-i va pasa. Mai apoi va veni un bleg si va spune ca "Acestea sunt lucruri mai puțin importante, pentru noi rom

Burel0015.272 mesaje#572

Am rugamintea pentru toata lumea sa revina on topic .Vad ca toti pretindeti aceasta ,dar cum aveti ocazia, cum dati o replica off

ben_gal1.901 mesaje#573

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Burel001

Daca considerati ca mesajele va sunt invizibilizate pe nedrept, atunci puteti face raport si daca alti moderatori sau admini vor considera ca aveti dreptate, mesajele in cauza vor fi din nou vizibile.

Niciodata nu ma pling de nimic, doar remarc [ca d'aia mi-a dat statu si partidu'... etc.].

Legea mea. Inaplicabila multora.

Propunerea mea a venit din dorinta de a contribui cu ceva la forum.

Inteleptul Sorinica1.709 mesaje#574
florianb a scris:
Asta este o timpenie, cavaleria romana nu a participat acolo.

Macar dai o cifra mai realista cu victimele evreiesti decit bengal.

La capitolul eroi nici nu se compara romanii cu evreii. In ultimele 2000 de ani romanii au luptat tot timpul ca sa ramina aici pe pamintul asta, impotriva tuturor dusmanilor, huni, slavi, mongoli, unguri, turci, rusi, austrieci, germani, sovietici, etc. In acest timp, cum ii ameninta cineva, evreii fugeau de colo colo in lume de frica. Aveti de invatat multe de la romani la capitolul asta. Nu au evreii nici macar a zecea parte din eroii pe care ii au romanii, asta pentru ca in timp ce romanii luptau, evreii fugeau.

Ignoranta ta este probabil una din calitatile tale. Ia intra la You Tube si scrie acolo de exemplu,Armata Romana sau Cotul Donului sau Batalia de la Stalingrad si o sa ai ocazia sa-i vezi pe ostasii romani pe cai si carute cu cai care faceau parte din "echipamentul cel mai modern cu care i-au inzestrat Maresalul Antonscu " Toate filmele de acolo au fost facute in timpul razboiului de romani si germani. Dupa ce o sa vezi filmele, intoarce-te si cere scuze ca ai scris ca scriu tampenii.

Afara de asta, te intreb: cine a vorbit de evrei ca sunt eroi mai mari? Se pare ca la subiect nu ai ceva de valoare sa scri atunci fara rusina, nu scrie nimic. Asa vor credea altii ca esti maiinstruit.

Burel001 a scris:
Am rugamintea pentru toata lumea sa revina on topic .Vad ca toti pretindeti aceasta ,dar cum aveti ocazia, cum dati o replica off

Scuza-ma dar se pare ca tocmai dumneata ai inceput cu scrisul nu on topic cand ne-ai asternut cat de buna si eroica a fost armata romana in primul razboi mondial (???????)

DiogeneDracon183 mesaje#576
lupini a scris:
E o aiureală Diktatul de la Viena, prin care Hitler a luat Ardealul de Nord şi l-a dat Ungariei ? Dacă zici tu, aşa o fi !

Rom

Editat Lun 4 ian 2010 13:35

lupini37.135 mesaje#577
DiogeneDracon a scris:

DiogeneDracon, multe din afirmaţiile tale sunt corecte. Asta spun şi eu: Antonescu a făcut treburile pe care le face un om care-şi apără ţara. Din acest punct de abordare, e de respectat.

lupini37.135 mesaje#578
florianb a scris:
Asta e aiureala, lupini!

Dictatul de la Viena, da, a fost o aiurerală !

florianb4.527 mesaje#579
Evreul a scris:
Ignoranta ta este probabil una din calitatile tale.

Ma faci sa rid. Ti-am raspuns la aberatia ta:

Evreul a scris:
Din pacate Romania tine un loc important in gafele militare cu Polonia care au atacat tancurile germane cu cavalerie si sabii.

Armata romana nu a participat la operatiuni militare pe teritoriul Poloniei. Esti prost informat.

Pentru ca esti total pe dinafara, nu te voi lasa sa rizi nici de polonezi. Vezi aici:

"...Despite media reports of the time, particularly in respect of the Battle of Krojanty, no cavalry charges were made by the Polish Cavalry against German tanks in War World Two.

...Although the cavalrymen retained their sabres, after 1937 the lance was dropped and it was issued to cavalrymen as a weapon of choice only. Instead, the cavalry units were equipped with modern armament, including 75 mm guns (asta e de cimp, nu AT), tankettes, 37mm AT guns, 40mm AA guns, anti-tank rifles and other pieces of modern weaponry.

...During the campaign, the brigades were distributed among the Polish armies and served as mobile reserves. In this role, the Polish cavalry proved itself a successful measure in filling the gaps in the front and covering the withdrawal of friendly units.

.......[cavalry] was used as a mobile reserve of the Polish armies and was using mostly infantry tactics: the soldiers dismounted before the battle and fought as a standard (yet fast) infantry."

"Charge of Krojanty where elements of the Polish cavalry (18th Pomeranian Uhlans Regiment) attacked German 76th Infantry Regiment (Colonel Hans Gollnick) of 20th Motorised Division under Lt. Gen. Mauritz von Wiktorin, which operated on the left (northern) flank of XIX Panzer Corps under Gen. Heinz Guderian.. During the attack the cavalry received machine gun fire from German armoured personnel carriers stationed nearby and were forced to retreat. Delay of the German advance is claimed as successful completion of the Poles' mission.

Happening on the first day of the war, it was one of its first clashes, and part of the larger Battle of Tuchola Forest. The incident became notable as reporters visiting the site soon after saw the dead bodies of horses and cavalrymen which lead to false reports of Polish cavalry attacking German tanks. Nazi propaganda took advantage of this, suggesting that the Poles attacked intentionally, believing that the German still had the dummy tanks the Versailles treaty restrictions had permitted them. The scene of Polish cavalry charging the Panzers with their lances has become a myth."

"...The same day, German war correspondents were brought to the battlefield, together with two journalists from Italy. They were shown the corpses of Polish cavalrymen and their horses, as well as German tanks that had arrived at the place after the battle. One of the Italian correspondents, Indro Montanelli, sent home an article, in which he described the bravery and heroism of Polish soldiers, who charged German tanks with sabres and lances. Although such a charge did not happen and there were no tanks used during the combat, the myth was used by German propaganda during the war. German propaganda magazine Die Wehrmacht reported on 13 September that the Poles had gravely underestimated German weapons, as Polish propaganda had suggested that German armored vehicles were only covered with sheet metal, leading to a grotesque attack. After the end of World War II it was still used by Soviet propaganda as an example of stupidity of pre-war Polish commanders, who allegedly did not prepare their country for the war and instead wasted the blood of their soldiers.

"George Parada states:[8]

Contrary to German propaganda, Polish cavalry brigades never charged tanks with their sabres or lances as they were equipped with anti-tank weapons such as 37 mm Bofors wz.36 (exported to UK as Ordnance Q.F. 37 mm Mk I) antitank guns, that could penetrate 26 mm of armour at 600 m at 30 degrees. The cavalry brigades were in the process of being reorganized into motorized brigades."

"...Another weapon was anti-tank rifle model 1935 (karabin przeciwpancerny wz. 35). Its calibre was 7.92 mm and it could penetrate 15 mm of armour at 300 m at 30 degrees. In 1939, the Germans were mainly equipped with the small Panzer I and Panzer II models which were vulnerable to such weapons."

Majoritatea trupelor blindate ale armatelor occidentale au fost la origine trupe de cavalerie transformate in unitati blindate-motorizate. O parte din ele si-au pastrat titulatura oficiala, de unitate de cavalerie. Polonia era pe aceeasi cale.

E vai de elevii sau studentii israelieni care invata istorie cu asa profesori. (il includ aici si pe bengal).

Evreul a scris:
Dupa ce o sa vezi filmele, intoarce-te si cere scuze ca ai scris ca scriu tampenii.

Chiar scrii. Imi esti dator o bere ca te invat istorie.

lupini a scris:
Şi, la r

Editat Lun 4 ian 2010 17:23

florianb4.527 mesaje#580
lupini a scris:
Dictatul de la Viena, da, a fost o aiurerală !

N-o mai aburi. Astept berea.

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