Început de Sikaryan, Joi 9 aug 2007 · 2.831 răspunsuri · 155.668 vizualizări
O sa citesc, din ce am parcurs asa pe fuga sunt multe lucruri pe care deja le stiam dar am zis sa nu le discut aici ca deja e prea mult pentru un forum cu tema religie.
Si o mica precizare, eu nu am spus ca adaptarea este singurul mecanism al evolutiei ma gandeam ca poate ai ramas cu impresia asta... 
Enki a scris:O sa citesc, din ce am parcurs asa pe fuga sunt multe lucruri pe care deja le stiam dar am zis sa nu le discut aici ca deja e prea mult pentru un forum cu tema religie.Si o mica precizare, eu nu am spus ca adaptarea este singurul mecanism al evolutiei ma gandeam ca poate ai ramas cu impresia asta...
nu mey...
dar mai bine citeste diseara inainte de culcare ( dar scoate-le la imprimanta)..
ai sa vezi cum reiese de acolo diferentza...
spor la citit si o seara kashtoaca
A fost o lectura interesanta. In afara de teoria lui Kordium, care e o aiureala prea putin probabila sa fie reala, pe celelalte le stiam mai mult sau mai putin bine. Si tot nu reiese de acolo ce spui tu, ca evolutia nu e (si) adaptare.
Logic ca, creatie. Ca sa evolueze ceva trebuie intai creat nu?
Enki a scris:A fost o lectura interesanta. In afara de teoria lui Kordium, care e o aiureala prea putin probabila sa fie reala, pe celelalte le stiam mai mult sau mai putin bine. Si tot nu reiese de acolo ce spui tu, ca evolutia nu e (si) adaptare.
faci iar confuzie....
uite niste citate din linkurile date de tine
"Adaptations are structures or behaviors that enhance a specific function, causing organisms to become better at surviving and reproducing.[5] They are produced by a combination of the continuous production of small, random changes in traits, followed by natural selection of the variants best-suited for their environment.[80] This process can cause either the gain of a new feature, or the loss of an ancestral feature. An example that shows both types of change is bacterial adaptation to antibiotic selection, with mutations causing antibiotic resistance by either modifying the target of the drug, or removing the transporters that allow the drug into the cell"
uite una tare..................
"During adaption, some structures may lose their original function and become vestigial structures."
si inca una.....cea mai tare
"Interactions between organisms can produce both conflict and co-operation. When the interaction is between pairs of species, such as a pathogen and a host, or a predator and its prey, these species can develop matched sets of adaptations. Here, the evolution of one species causes adaptations in a second species. These changes in the second species then, in turn, cause new adaptations in the first species. This cycle of selection and response is called co-evolution"
deci...eu nu spun ca sunt nu au legatura una cu cealalta.....
dar asta pana la un punct....acel punc este evolutia maxima pana in acel moment...evolutie ce a mers mana in mana cu adaptarea...dar dupa....
daca intervin factori externi agresivi ( sa zicem)...urmeaza perioada de adaptare la noile conditzii...
mmm? ce zici?...
si ca intodeauna..adevarul e undeva la mijloc
Estel a scris:si ca intodeauna..adevarul e undeva la mijloc
who knows?
do you?
in nici un caz..desi stiu unde e, limitarile mele de fiinta umana nu ma lasa sa-l si vad
Estel a scris:in nici un caz..desi stiu unde e, limitarile mele de fiinta umana nu ma lasa sa-l si vad :)
grea replica....ma depasheshte
newtask a scris:faci iar confuzie....uite niste citate din linkurile date de tine
"Adaptations are structures or behaviors that enhance a specific function, causing organisms to become better at surviving and reproducing.[5] They are produced by a combination of the continuous production of small, random changes in traits, followed by natural selection of the variants best-suited for their environment.[80] This process can cause either the gain of a new feature, or the loss of an ancestral feature. An example that shows both types of change is bacterial adaptation to antibiotic selection, with mutations causing antibiotic resistance by either modifying the target of the drug, or removing the transporters that allow the drug into the cell"
uite una tare..................
"During adaption, some structures may lose their original function and become vestigial structures."
si inca una.....cea mai tare
"Interactions between organisms can produce both conflict and co-operation. When the interaction is between pairs of species, such as a pathogen and a host, or a predator and its prey, these species can develop matched sets of adaptations. Here, the evolution of one species causes adaptations in a second species. These changes in the second species then, in turn, cause new adaptations in the first species. This cycle of selection and response is called co-evolution"
deci...eu nu spun ca sunt nu au legatura una cu cealalta.....
dar asta pana la un punct....acel punc este evolutia maxima pana in acel moment...evolutie ce a mers mana in mana cu adaptarea...dar dupa....
daca intervin factori externi agresivi ( sa zicem)...urmeaza perioada de adaptare la noile conditzii...
mmm? ce zici?...
Pai care e diferenta intre punctele voastre de vedere?
Desigur ca termenii nu sunt sinonimi, desigur ca exista legatura intre ei, unde este problema?
Ce nu este in regula la citatele de mai sus?
Iar teoria lui Kordium ar putea fi folosita pentru fundamentarea Ipotezei Gaia si a teoriei campurilor morfice a lui Rupert Sheldrake. :)
Editat Vin 17 aug 2007 08:25