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Cum seducem femeile

Început de Mr.Cristi, Mar 6 nov 2012 · 1.727 răspunsuri · 90.318 vizualizări · închis

Mr.Cristi1.269 mesaje#1501
S.R. a scris:

Nimeni nu vrea sa vorbeasca despre apa calda wink.png

Roportalienii, dar si oamenii, stiu in general ca pentru relatii&shit trebuie indeplinite niste conditii, astea de le mai amintim noi p-aici.

Practic e cum am scrie ceva gen ca sa te speli ai nevoie de apa, dar ca sa te speli cum trebuie e necesara apa calda pardon.gif

Deci, eu am intrebat-o ieri pe mama ce trebuie sa fac ca sa seduc o femeie, si ghici ce? Era mai tare ca baietii care promoveaza seductia&shit.

Asadar, daca mama, in mod inconstient imi face rau prin sfaturile ei, ce pretentii mai ai de la straini? Apa e calda in sensul ca toti au impresia ca stiu cum se cuceresc femeile/barbatii. Un barbat/o femeie iti poate spune in prima faza ca da, conteaza cum arati, ca apoi, imediat sa adauge ca astia fara succes la femei/barbati sunt fraieri/e. =))

S.R.16.455 mesaje#1502

Trebuia sa o intrebi altfel: "il luai pe tata daca ii lipseau 3 degete de la o mana ?"


Hai c-am exagerat... Mai simplu: "il luai pe tata daca era cu 20 de cm mai scund ?"

Allexandrra8.367 mesaje#1503
S.R. a scris:

Visezi mult tu sau te uiti in gura oamenilor. Nu mai visa, trezeste-te. La tara nu se mai omoara nimeni muncind. Asta nu inseamna ca nu se vor jeli ca vai ce grea e munca. Doar sunt romani.

Hai pa. Am vazut cu ochii mei ani in sir, in timp ce tu admirai vreo donsoara care invata sa mearga pe tocuri. Nu vorbesc despre ce nu am vazut sau despre ce nu am citit din surse sigure.

S.R.16.455 mesaje#1504
Allexandrra a scris:

Hai pa. Am vazut cu ochii mei ani in sir, in timp ce tu admirai vreo donsoara care invata sa mearga pe tocuri. Nu vorbesc despre ce nu am vazut sau despre ce nu am citit din surse sigure.

Foarte rau ca ai vazut, trebuia sa pui si tu mana, cum am pus eu, ca sa vad ce dracu e asa de greu. Surpriza, nu e, iar in cazul femeilor, ce nu vrea.

Ai niste impresii teribil de gresite despre mine.

S.R.16.455 mesaje#1505
Allexandrra a scris:

Da, ma, animale fiind la origine si avand multe gene in comun, observam cu ochiul liber cum veveritele, vulpile si leoaicele cersesc de mancare de la masculii lor.

Cum sa nu se descurce in mediul natural? Nu pot sa se lupte cu ursul, probabil. Si barbatul poate cu mainile goale, nu cu ajutorul unor unelte create de capatana de pe umeri. Think twice si zi mersi ca am treburi mai importante acum, ca iti faceam pleistocenul ala tandari.

Patriarchy has been extremely successful, despite its recent vilification. Most cultures worldwide are patriarchal – to find examples of successful matriarchal societies you either have to turn to ancient history, remote outskirts of the world or feminist fiction. However, this hasn’t stopped the feminist collective from queefing out books and even a hashtag hailing the end of patriarchy in a textbook example of incestuous amplification.

What patriarchy, after its apparent downfall, will be replaced with remains to be seen. Hamsterizations aside, there is surprisingly little data available about what life would be like in a society made up of only men or only women. An enterprising social scientist might want to perform an experiment where groups of men and groups of women are left to their own devices, having to work together to survive against the elements and build a civilization from scratch. However, this scientist would have a very hard time convincing ethical review boards that the inevitable suffering of his participants would weight up against the value of the data.

Luckily, reality television is not bound by ethical constraints and once in a while, in its never ending quest for viewer ratings, reality TV accidentally performs a very interesting experiment that social scientists would never be allowed to do.

Quite a few years ago, I had the pleasure of watching the Dutch version of Survivor (Expeditie Robinson) with my feminist roommate. That particular season would have two islands, one populated by men and one populated by women. My roommate had been promoting that particular series to me and the other students in the house for weeks because it would show us, according to her, what a society run by women – free from the evils of patriarchy – would be like.

And it did. Oh it did.

Here is what happened: initially both groups were dropped on their respective islands, given some supplies to get started and left to fend for themselves. In both groups there was some initial squabbling as people tried to figure out a local hierarchy. The men pretty much did whatever they felt was necessary – there was no leader giving orders. Men who felt like hunting, foraging or fishing did so. Another guy decided he was fed up with sitting on sand and started making benches. Others built a hut that gradually grew and evolved. Another guy cooked every night. Within days a neat little civilization was thriving, each day being slightly more prosperous than the previous one.

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The women settled into a routine as well. The hung up a clothesline to dry their towels, then proceeded to sunbathe and squabble. Because unlike men, women were unable to do anything without consensus of the whole group. And because it was a group of at least a dozen women, consensus was never reached. During the next few episodes, the women ate all their initial supplies, got drenched by tropical storms several times, were eaten alive by sand fleas and were generally miserable. The men on the other hand, were quite content. There were disagreements of course, but they were generally resolved.

Eventually, the people running the program decided something had to change. In order to help the women out, three men would be selected to go to their island. In return, three women would take their place at the men’s island. The look on my feminist roommates face during this episode was priceless.

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Initially, the three men selected for the women’s island were ecstatic, for obvious reason. But then they arrived at the island and were greeted by the women.

‘Where is your hut?’, they asked.

‘We have no hut’

‘Where are your supplies?’ they asked, dismayed

‘We ate all the rice’

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And so on. The three men ended up working like dogs, using all the skills developed by trial and error in their first few weeks – building a hut, fish, trying to get the women to forage. The women continued to bitch and sunbathe. The three women who were sent to the men’s island were delighted – food, shelter and plenty of male attention was freely available. They too continued to sunbathe.

And that my friends, is what patriarchy is. My former roommate, unsurprisingly, is no longer a feminist.

Now this might all be a fluke, a white raven, an exceptional case not representative of society as whole. But that particular season of Dutch Survivor is not unique. CBS broadcast several Survivor seasons in the US, where men and women started off in separate groups. In most cases (the Amazon and One World), the result was the same. The men quickly got their act together, getting access to food, fire and shelter while the women spent a lot of time and energy on petty little squabbles, eating their meager supplies, getting drenched in storms and generally being pathetic. The opposite situation, where men didn’t get their act together while women quickly built a functional micro society, has not yet been observed outside of feminist fiction, and it probably never will.

Sursa:

http://www.returnofkings.com/32053/this-accidental-experiment-shows-the-superiority-of-patriarchy

Deci tu esti o vanatoare si o descurcareata, organizata, cooperanta si care face ce trebuie cand e necesar ?

The Bitch20.945 mesaje#1506
Mr.Cristi a scris:

Femei pline de bani ai sa vezi doar in contextul unei societati construite tot de barbati. In mediul natural, fara ajutorul barbatului femeile nu ar avea cum sa se descurce.

Ai dreptate, bunica mea care a ramas vaduva de tanara cu 6 copii de crescut la tara nu s-a descurcat deloc. Si-au pus capat zilelor toti. Inafara de maica'mea bineinteles, ca altfel nu existam p'acii sa-ti dau tie replica la idioteniile pe care le scrii. doh.gif

Editat Lun 14 apr 2014 00:32

Mr.Cristi1.269 mesaje#1507
Allexandrra a scris:

Ma, tu ai vazut femei muncind la ţară, cot la cot cu barbatii? Ai citit despre munca grea depusa de tarancile rusoaice? In buzunarele cui dracului crezi ca intrau toti banii produsi de munca aia? Mai termina cu sclifositele cunoscute de tine prin cluburi. Au fost intotdeauna si sunt si acum femei care muncesc din greu. Muta-ti un pic punctul de observatie.

Da, ma, animale fiind la origine si avand multe gene in comun, observam cu ochiul liber cum veveritele, vulpile si leoaicele cersesc de mancare de la masculii lor.

Cum sa nu se descurce in mediul natural? Nu pot sa se lupte cu ursul, probabil. Si barbatul poate cu mainile goale, nu cu ajutorul unor unelte create de capatana de pe umeri. Think twice si zi mersi ca am treburi mai importante acum, ca iti faceam pleistocenul ala tandari.

Nu cred ca m-ai inteles bine. Hai sa-ti spun o foarte mica poveste. Ieri am fost undeva la tara impreuna cu 3 prieteni. Pe un camp, nu stiu cum si de unde a aparut un iepure. Brusc s-au trezit instinctele de vanatori in noi si, din cateva pietre am doborat bietul animal. Pe care, evident, l-am pus pe jar. Eu nu am mancat, nu-mi place carnea de iepure. Ma rog, ideea e alta, si anume, ca instinctele barbatilor sunt bine pastrate la locul lor si sunt gata sa actioneze in orice clipa. Un grup de femei nu cred ca ar fi reactionat asa cum au reactionat prietenii aia ai mei. In pleistocen, animalele erau foarte mari. Un urs de pestera, cand se ridica pe picioarele din spate, avea 5 metri. O hiena era cat un leu. La cat de delicate si fragile sunt femeile, nu cred ca ar fi facut fata unor asemenea monstruozitati. Instinctele si comportamentele noastre vorbesc foarte bine despre stramosii nostri vanatori culegatori - observand comportamentul femeilor de azi, ne putem face o idee destul de bine conturata despre femeile din pleistocen. Majoritatea femeilor se tem de soareci, sobolani, serpi, deci e clar ce bine s-ar descurca la vanatoare. laugh.png Majoritatea femeilor simt nevoia de a fi protejate de barbati, desi in ziua de azi nu te mai pandeste tigrul la orice colt de strada ca sa te manance. Asadar, femeile din pleistocen depindeau aproape in totalitate de barbati.

Si acum, la modul concret, cum crezi ca te-ai descurca noaptea, singura fiind intr-o padure? Dar daca ai fi nevoita sa petreci cateva luni singura intr-o padure bantuita de animale de prada?

Editat Lun 14 apr 2014 00:39

S.R.16.455 mesaje#1508
Blues a scris:

Poate pentru ca voi sunteti singurii care intelegeti astfel si apoi va mai dati si mari in explicatii, de parca sunteti voi guru in ale amoarelor. Ma lasi?

Nu. Eu oricum ma plictisesc la ora asta... altfel de exemplu poate iti spuneam cum o femeie care are un copil dintr-o casatorie anterioara isi scade standardele, sau cum cine oboseste, indiferent de sex, poate sa ramana fara standarde deloc, sa vrea doar pace si liniste si sa nu fie singur/a. Chestie care tine de psihologie, sexul e si el p-acolo, dar nu mai este o caramida decisiva in baza unei relatii. Mai sunt si alte situatii, nu le listez pe toate. Ideea e ca trebuie sa fii in zona in care cineva cauta ceva si sa vada ca tu ai de oferit acel ceva si esti dispus sa oferi. "Ceva" poate sa insemne aproape orice.

Atat ca de obicei inseamna cum arati sau cati bani ai sau cu cine si pe unde umbli sau cum te vad ailalti. Care sunt mosteniri din vremurile vechi.

Editat Lun 14 apr 2014 00:34

Abbie M.9.599 mesaje#1509
S.R. a scris:

Social construct:

Foarte adevarat. Nu schimba totusi faptul ca multe femei iau asta in serios, fara sa stie ca baza lor e una falsa.

Mr.Cristi1.269 mesaje#1510
Naeema a scris:

Ai dreptate, bunica mea care a ramas vaduva de tanara cu 6 copii de crescut la tara nu s-a descurcat deloc. Si-au pus capat zilelor toti. Inafara de maica'mea bineinteles, ca altfel nu existam p'acii sa-ti dau tie replica la idioteniile pe care le scrii. doh.gif

Toate femeile se pot descurca de minune, dar asta doar in cadrul unei societati organizate. Societatea asta, construita de om, este o aberatie. Natura nu stie de asa ceva. Mai concret spus, instinctele noastre nu stiu ca noi ne aflam intr-o lume de beton, lume guvernata de niste reguli etc. Instinctele noastre cred ca ne aflam undeva prin jungla sau prin gheturile de acum 15.000 de ani din Europa. Prin urmare, ele, instinctele sunt gata sa actioneze in consecinta.

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