copilele mirese ale islamului
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dillema a scris:http://www.homa.org/Details.asp?ContentID=...OCID=2083225413un barbat poate casatori un copil mai mic de 8-9 ani si sa aiba sex cu micuta!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual act such as forplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not comitted a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man's four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl's sister.
o femeie musulmana care refuza sexul cu sotul , nu are dreptul sa ceara de la sot mancare, locuinta si haine
"woman who refuses herself to her husband is guilty, and may not demand from him food, clothing, lodging, or any later sexual relations; however, she retains the right to be paid damages if she is repudiated."
daca sotul trebuie sa faca sex xu nevasta cel putin o data pe luna...altfel nu ajunge in rai
"A husband must have sexual relations with his wife at least once in every four months."
daca un barbat casatoreste o fata care nu a ajuns la pubertate si face sex si ii face traumatisme...sa nu repete actul
If a man who has married a girl who has not reached puberty possesses her sexually before her ninth birthday, inflicting traumatisms upon her, he has no right to repeat such an act with her."
o femeie musulmana nu are dreptul sa casatoreasca un nemusulman, barbatul musulman are voie la casatorie temporara cu femeia crestina sau evreuca
"A Moslem woman may not marry a non-Moslem man; nor may a Moslem man marry a non-Moslem woman in continuing marriage, but he may take a Jewish or Christian woman in temporary marriage."
un copil nascut din tata adulter este recunoscut!!!!!! parca era pedepsit adulterul...cum vine asta
"A child born of an adulterous father is legitimate."
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unde sunt mentionate acestea in Coran sau Hadituri? vreau trimiteri ....rog sa raspunda cei care apartin religiei musulmane
internetul si mass-media nu sunt o sursa sigura de informare... cand cauti sa te informezi trebuie sa ai certitudinea ca informatia este corecta...
o religie este foarte greu de inteles daca nu esti adeptul ei .... pe langa capacitatea de intelegere trebuie sa ai capacitatea de acceptare a ceea ce este diferit de credinta ta.... nu e suficient sa citesti Coranul ca sa stii islamul ...trebuie sa il cunosti, sa traiesti in mijlocul lui ..... a citi nu e suficient ... textele sunt interpretabile ... Biblia e un exemplu concret .... crestinii (catolici, ortodoxi, protestanti,neoprotestanti etc) nu dau aceeasi interpretare versetelor...
Editat Vin 27 oct 2006 03:55
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/4/index.htm
carmys,iteste cu atentie si verifica ce am postat pe acest site, traducerea coranului si a haditurilor sunt veritabile, unanim acceptata de liderii islamici, folosita de musulmanii anglofoni
studiu placut
dillema a scris:sunt egali femeia si barbatul in islam???
femeia si barbatul nu sunt egali in nici o societate ....
nici in Romania desi exista lege care atesta egalitatea in drepturi a ambelor sexe .... dar e numai pe hartie .....
http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=8074 o femeie musulmana nu are voie sa calatoreasca singura
dillema a scris:copilele mirese ale islamuluihttp://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24587
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infiorator .....
fetelor musulmane chiar asa este?
sa le lasam pe ele sa ne vorbeasca despre religia lor ...cred ca sunt cele mai in masura .... sa nu judecam dupa niste fanatici si obsedati sexuali.....
din pacate exista si crestini care au probleme cu pedofilia ....
la romi casatoria intre copii este ceva normal ..... copiii trebuie lasati sa-si traiasca copilaria....
trist.....
Editat Vin 27 oct 2006 05:10
Narrated AbuSa'id al-Khudri:
A woman came to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) while we were with him.
She said: Apostle of Allah, my husband, Safwan ibn al-Mu'attal, BEATS ME
when I pray, and makes me break my fast when I keep a fast, and he does
not offer the dawn prayer until the sun rises.
He asked Safwan, who was present, about what she had said. He replied:
Apostle of Allah, as for her statement "he beats me when I pray", she
recites two surahs (during prayer) and I have prohibited her (to do so).
He (the Prophet) said: If one surah is recited (during prayer), that is
sufficient for the people.
(Safwan continued:) As regards her saying "he makes me break my fast," she
dotes on fasting; I am a young man, I cannot restrain myself.
The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said on that day: A woman should
not fast except with the permission of her husband.
(Safwan said:) As for her statement that I do not pray until the sun rises,
we are a people belonging to a class, and that (our profession of supplying
water) is already known about us. We do not awake until the sun rises. He
said: When you awake, offer your prayer. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 13, Number 2453)
Povestita de AbuSa'id al-Khudri:
O femeie a venit la profet in timp ce noi eram cu el.
Ea a spus: Apostol al lui Allah, sotul meu, Safwan ibn al- Mu"attal, MA BATE cand ma rog, si ma face sa imi intrerup postul cand postesc, si el nu ofera rugaciunea dawn pana la rasaritul soarelui.
El a intrebat pe Safwan, care era prezent, despre ce a spus ea. El a replicat: Apostole al lui Allah, referitor la marturia" el ma bate cand eu ma rog". ea recita doua sure ( in timpul rugaciunii) si eu am i-am interzis sa faca asta.
El ( Profetul0 a spus: Daca o sura este recitata ( in timpul rugaciunii), este suficient pentru oameni.
(Safwan a continuat): Privind cea spus ea " el ma face sa imi intrerup postul", ea adora sa posteasca, sunt tanar si nu pot sa ma abtin.
Apostolul lui Allah a spus in acea zi: O femeie nu ar trebui sa posteasca decat cu ACORDUL SOTULUI.
(Safwan a spus): Marturia ei ca nu ma rog pana la rasaritul soarelui. noi suntem oameni ce apartinem unei clase, si ca ( profesia noastra de a suplini cu apa) este deja cunoscuta. Noi nu ne trezim pana la rasaritul soarelui. El a spus: cand esti treaz, ofera rugaciunea
Narrated Qays ibn Sa'd:
I went to al-Hirah and saw them (the people) prostrating themselves before a satrap of theirs, so I said: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) has most right to have prostration made before him. When I came to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him), I said: I went to al-Hirah and saw them prostrating themselves before a satrap of theirs, but you have most right, Apostle of Allah, to have (people) prostrating themselves before you. He said: Tell me, if you were to pass my grave, would you prostrate yourself before it? I said: No. He then said: Do not do so. If I were to command anyone to make prostration before another I WOULD COMMAND WOMEN TO PROSTRATE THEMSELVES BEFORE THEIR HUSBANDS, because of the special right over them given to husbands by Allah. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 11, Number 2135) Povestita de Qays ibn Sa'd:
Am mers la al-HIrah si i-am vazut (oamenii) prosternandu-se inaintea unui tiran de al lor, asa ca am spus: Apostolul lui ALlah are cel mai mare drept de a ne prosterna inaintea lui. Cand am venit la Profet, am spus: am fost in al - Hirah si i-am vazut prosternadu-se inaintea tiranului lor, dar tu ai acest mare drept, Apostole al lui Allah, ca oamenii sa se prosterneze in fata ta. El a spus: Spune-mi daca ai fi trecut inaintea mormantului meu te-ai fi prosternat? El a spus: Nu. EL a spus: Nu fa asta. Daca ar fi sa comand pe cineva sa daca prosternare in fata unuia NOI COMANDA FEMEILOR SA SE PROSTERNEZE IN FATA SOTILOR LOR, pentru ca ei au un drept special asupra lor dat de sotilor de Allah.
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ALOOOOOOO eellena nu vei ca este un trib sau tu bagi toti musulmanii in aceaisi oala,noi atunci ce sa zicem ca toti crestinii isi violeza mamele,sau cate lucrurii urte sunt in lumea asta la crestinii asta insemna ca toti sunt?
mai fata invata sa fi om .
carmys a scris:unde sunt mentionate acestea in Coran sau Hadituri? vreau trimiteri ....rog sa raspunda cei care apartin religiei musulmaneinternetul si mass-media nu sunt o sursa sigura de informare... cand cauti sa te informezi trebuie sa ai certitudinea ca informatia este corecta...
o religie este foarte greu de inteles daca nu esti adeptul ei .... pe langa capacitatea de intelegere trebuie sa ai capacitatea de acceptare a ceea ce este diferit de credinta ta.... nu e suficient sa citesti Coranul ca sa stii islamul ...trebuie sa il cunosti, sa traiesti in mijlocul lui ..... a citi nu e suficient ... textele sunt interpretabile ... Biblia e un exemplu concret .... crestinii (catolici, ortodoxi, protestanti,neoprotestanti etc) nu dau aceeasi interpretare versetelor...
Draga mea nu te lua dupa ellena habar are ce scrie te rog daca esti in Romania poti merge la moscheie si i-a un QORAN IN LIMBA ROMANA .
Iti poti procura si cartii legate de Islam.
dillema a scris:http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=8074 o femeie musulmana nu are voie sa calatoreasca singura
ce intelegi prin singura?
dillema a scris:ia uite noorut ce te asteapta ...
http://www.homa.org/Details.asp?ContentID=...OCID=2083225413
un barbat poate casatori un copil mai mic de 8-9 ani si sa aiba sex cu micuta!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual act such as forplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not comitted a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man's four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl's sister.
o femeie musulmana care refuza sexul cu sotul , nu are dreptul sa ceara de la sot mancare, locuinta si haine
"woman who refuses herself to her husband is guilty, and may not demand from him food, clothing, lodging, or any later sexual relations; however, she retains the right to be paid damages if she is repudiated."
daca sotul trebuie sa faca sex xu nevasta cel putin o data pe luna...altfel nu ajunge in rai
"A husband must have sexual relations with his wife at least once in every four months."
daca un barbat casatoreste o fata care nu a ajuns la pubertate si face sex si ii face traumatisme...sa nu repete actul
If a man who has married a girl who has not reached puberty possesses her sexually before her ninth birthday, inflicting traumatisms upon her, he has no right to repeat such an act with her."
o femeie musulmana nu are dreptul sa casatoreasca un nemusulman, barbatul musulman are voie la casatorie temporara cu femeia crestina sau evreuca
"A Moslem woman may not marry a non-Moslem man; nor may a Moslem man marry a non-Moslem woman in continuing marriage, but he may take a Jewish or Christian woman in temporary marriage."
un copil nascut din tata adulter este recunoscut!!!!!! parca era pedepsit adulterul...cum vine asta
"A child born of an adulterous father is legitimate."
restul ...
"A woman may legally belong to a man in one of two ways; by continuing marriage or temporary marriage. In the former, the duration of the marriage need not be specified; in the latter, it must be stipulated, for example, that it is for a period of an hour, a day, a month, a year, or more."
"A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual act such as forplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not comitted a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man's four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl's sister."
"A father or a paternal grandfather has the right to marry off a child who is insane or has not reached puberty by acting as its representative. The child may not annul such a marriage after reaching puberty or regaining his sanity, unless the marriage is to his manifest disadvantage."
"Any girl who is of age, that is, capable of understanding what is in her own best interest, if she wishes to get married and is a virgin, must procure the authorization of her father or paternal grandfather. The permission of her mother or brother is not required."
"A marriage is annulled if a man finds that his wife is afflicted with one of the seven following disabilities: madness, leprosy, eczema, blindness, paralysis with aftereffects, malformation of the urinary and genital tracts or of the genital-tract and rectum through conjoining thereof, or vaginal malformation making Coitus impossible."
"If a wife finds out after marriage that her husband is suffering from mental illness, that he is a castrate, impotent, or has had his testicles excised, she may apply for annulment of her marriage."
"If a wife has her marriage annulled because her husband is unable to have sexual relations with her either vaginally or anally, he must pay her as damages one-half of her mehryeh (her price) specified in the marriage contract. If the husband or wife annuls the marriage for any of the above-mentioned reasons, the man owes nothing to the woman if they have had sexual relations together; if they have not, he must pay her the full amount of the dowry."
"A Moslem woman may not marry a non-Moslem man; nor may a Moslem man marry a non-Moslem woman in continuing marriage, but he may take a Jewish or Christian woman in temporary marriage."
"A woman who has contracted a continuing marriage does not have the right to go out of the house without her husband's permission; she must remain at his disposal for the fulfillment of any one of his desires, and may not refuse herself to him except for a religiously valid reason. If she is totally submissive to him, the husband must provide her with her food, clothing, and lodging, whether or not he has the means to do so."
"A woman who refuses herself to her husband is guilty, and may not demand from him food, clothing, lodging, or any later sexual relations; however, she retains the right to be paid damages if she is repudiated."
"If a man who has married a girl who has not reached puberty possesses her sexually before her ninth birthday, inflicting traumatisms upon her, he has no right to repeat such an act with her."
"A man who has contracted a continuing marriage may not leave his wife for so long a time as to allow her to question the validity of the marriage; however, he is not obligated to spend one night out of every four with her."
"A husband must have sexual relations with his wife at least once in every four months."
"A woman who has been temporarily married in exchange for a previously established dowry has no right to demand that her daily expenses be paid by her husband, even when she becomes pregnant."
"A temporary marriage, even though only one of convenience, is nevertheless legal."
"A man must not abstain from having sexual relations with his temporary wife for more than four months.
"If a father (or paternal grandfather) marries off his daughter (or granddaughter) in her absence without knowing for a certainty that she is alive, the marriage becomes null and void as soon as it is established that she was dead at the time of the marriage."
"To look upon the face and hair of a girl who has not reached puberty, if it is done without intention of enjoyment thereof, and if one is not afraid of succumbing to temptation, may be tolerated. It is however recommended that one not look upon her belly or thighs, which must remain covered."
"To look upon the faces and hands of Jewish or Christian women, if this is not done with intention of enjoyment thereof, and if one does not fear temptation, is tolerated."
"A woman must hide her body and her hair from the eyes of men. It is highly recommended that she also hide them from those of prepubic boys, if she suspects that they may look upon her with lust."
"If a man is called upon, for medical reasons, to look upon a woman other than his wife and to touch her body, he is permitted to do so,but if he can give such care by only looking at the body he must not touch it, and if he can give it by only touching, he must not look at it."
"A woman who becomes pregnant as a result of adultery must not have an abortion. If a man commits adultery with an unmarried woman, and subsequently marries her, the child born of that marriage will be a bastard unless the parents can be sure it was conceived after they were married."
"A child born of an adulterous father is legitimate."
"The best person to breast-feed a newborn baby it its own mother. It is preferable that she not ask to be paid for such service, but that her husband pay her for it of his own free will. If the sum the mother asks for is greater than that charged by a wet nurse, the husband is free to take the child from its mother and turn it over to the wet nurse."
"A man who repudiates his wife must be of sound mind and past the age of puberty. He must do so of his own free will and without any constraint; therefore, if the formula for divorce is spoken in jest the marriage is not annulled."
"A woman temporarily married, say, for a month or a year, has her marriage automatically annulled at the end of that time, or at any other time when the husband releases her from the balance of her engagement. It is not necessary for this that there be any witnesses, or that the woman have had her period."
"A woman who has not yet reached the age of nine or a menopausal woman may remarry immediately after divorce, without waiting the hundred days that are otherwise required."
"A woman who has had her ninth birthday, or who has not yet entered menopause, must wait for three menstrual periods after her divorce before being allowed to remarry. If a woman who has not reached her ninth birthday or who has not entered menopause gets temporarily married, she must, at the end of the contract or when the husband has released her from part of it, wait two menstrual periods or forty-five days before marrying again."
"If the father or paternal grandfather of a boy has him marry a woman for a temporary marriage, he may prematurely cancel it in the boy's interest, even if the marriage was contracted before the boy reached the age of puberty. If, for example, a fourteen-year-old boy has been married off to a woman for a period of two years, they may return her freedom to the woman before this time has run its course; but a continuing marriage cannot be broken in this way."
"If a man repudiates his wife without informing her of it, and continues to meet her expenses for a period of, say, a year, and at the end of that time informs her that he got a divorce a year earlier and shows her proof of it, he may require that she return to him anything he has bought or given her during that time, provided that she has not used it up or consumed it, in which case he cannot demand its return."
"If a child dies within the mother's womb and it is a danger to her life to leave it there, it must be extracted in the easiest way possible; it can. if need be, cut into pieces; this should be done by the woman's husband or a midwife."
"A woman who wishes to pursue her studies toward the end of being able to earn her living through respectable work, and who has a male teacher, may do so if she keeps her face covered and has no contact with men; but if-that is inevitable, and religious and moral tenets are thus undermined, she must give up her studies. Girls and boys who attend coeducational classes in grammar schools, high schools, universities, or other teaching establishments, and who, in order to legalize such a situation, wish to contract a temporary marriage may do so without the permission of their fathers. The same applies if the boy and girl are in love
CE temporara visezi elena se poate casatorii pt.totdeauna si poate ramane crestina toata viata sau evraica.
Ma-si bucura sa fie ura asta a ta temorara.
Avem prieteni de familie el musulman ,ea crestina au un baietel de 15 ani ,si ea v-a ramane crestina toata viata pt.ca asa vrea si au o viata fericita .de ce vorbesti ceea ce nu sti?
dillema a scris:femeia in Kuwit nu are dreptul la vot!!!
IMI PARE RAU SA-TI SPUN DAR FEMEILE DIN KUWEIT AU DREPT DE VOT...SI ITI SPUN IN CUNOSTINTA DE CAUZA DEOARECE VIITORUL MEU SOT ESTE DIN KUWEIT...ASA K MAI SCHIMBA-TI SURSELE DE INSPIRATIE...SI CA SA STII SI U..NU TOATE SITE-URILE ASTEA CARE SUNT DATE EXEMLU AICI SUNT BUNE... NU TOATE SITE-URILE DESPRE ISLAM SUNT LA FEL...SI INCA CEVA...IN AFARA LIMBAJULUI SI A FAPTULUI K PROVIN DIN TARI ARABE...IRAKIENII,IRANIENII,SIRIENII SUNT TOTAL DIFERITI DE CEILALTI(KUWEIT,OMAN,DUBAI,EMIRATELE ARABE,QATAR..)SUNT MUSULMANI TOTI DAR DIFERITI...LA NOI IN ROMANIA SUNT FOARTE MULTI IRANIENI SI IRAKIENI CARE SE DAU DREPT SIRIENI SAU DIN CAIRO ORI DUBAI ... ITI POTI DA SEAMA DUPA ACCENTUL FOLOSIT DE EI...K SI LA NOI...MOLDOVENII,ARDELENII,OLTENII AU ACCENTE DIFERITE.SINCER..CEI DIN IRAK SI IRAN,PRECUM SI SIRIA MI SE PAR CEI MAI RAI..MAREA MAJORITATE AU INTELES CORANUL GRESIT LA FEL CUM SI LA NOI CRESTINII INTELEG BIBLIA GRESIT..
dillema de un singur lucru m-ai convins: ca ii urasti pe musulmani ... inteleg ca nu esti de acord cu religia lor dar de unde atata ura? de ce nu poti fi mai toleranta? nimeni de pe acest forum nu este mai pornit impotriva lor decat tine .... parca ai avea ceva personal cu ei .... e crestineste frumos?
nu iti place ..foarte bine...nu trebuie sa iti placa... dar lasa-i in pace sa-si urmeze calea buna rea, e religia lor .... ai ceva de castigat din atata ura?
nu crezi ca am avea mai mult de castigat daca am fi mai toleranti?
fiecare padure are uscaturile ei ... problemele societatii noaste nu le vezi: incest, viol, crime. discriminare..
personal cunosc un preot care a fost condamnat pentru bigamia...a avut doua neveste .... si era crestin .... daca i-am judeca pe toti crestinii dupa acestea, cum ar fi?
au dreptul la 4 neveste .... dar nu sunt obligati sa le aiba..... in ziua de azi majoritatea au numai o nevasta.... nu sunt de acord sa ai 4 neveste .... dar nici sa ai una si pe langa altele..... sunt pline site-urile matrimoniale de romani casatoriti care cauta sex inafara casatoriei ....
nu suntem noi in masura sa judecam o religie .... cu atat mai mult e greu sa intelegi o societate daca ai fost crescut in alta automat o vezi prin prisma societatii in care ai trait...
in ceea ce priveste hijabul .... si femeia crestina are obligatia de a avea capul acoperit ...si in iudaism la fel ...
uite ce spune Tora: "Barbatul care isi lasa femeia afara cu capul descoperit va fi blestemat de Dumnezeu!"
si Biblia:
"4. Orice barbat care se roaga sau prooroceste, avand capul acoperit, necinsteste capul sau.
5. Iar orice femeie care se roaga sau prooroceste, cu capul neacoperit, isi necinsteste capul; caci tot una este ca si cum ar fi rasa.
6. Caci daca o femeie nu-si pune val pe cap, atunci sa se si tunda. Iar daca este lucru de rusine pentru femeie ca sa se tunda ori sa se rada, sa-si puna val.
7. Caci barbatul nu trebuie sa-si acopere capul, fiind chip si slava a lui Dumnezeu, iar femeia este slava barbatului. " (INTAIA EPISTOLA CATRE CORINTENI A SFANTULUI APOSTOL PAVEL , capitolul 11)
uite ce a spus Parintele Teofil intr-un interviu referitor la femeie: " Femeia trebuie s
Editat Vin 27 oct 2006 15:25