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DOMNUL ISUS:revolutie sau lumanare?

Început de Gelupanda, Mar 26 feb 2008 · 382 răspunsuri · 33.574 vizualizări

cioanas4.320 mesaje#331
DarkBringer a scris:
Haha ce d-zeu e asta al vostru, care se ispitteste singur? Se trimite dual pe pamant, prin interferente tridimensionale si se ipsiteste in 1D cu diavolu?

Cred ca interpretarea dumneavoastra este deformata! :P

Sikaryan11.565 mesaje#332
cioanas a scris:
Cred ca interpretarea dumneavoastra este deformata! :P

La fel de deformata este Treimea ... in acest caz Isus cu tatal si Duhul ...toti trei una singura ...au asat-o gravida pe biata Maria ...si astfel isus se naste din incestul pe care l-a savarsit cu mama sa ...si culmea dracoveniei ...din acest incest nu se naste un copil ...ci el insusi ...adica Isus este propriul sau tata ...asta da dracovenie!

DarkBringer3.704 mesaje#333
cioanas a scris:
Cred ca interpretarea dumneavoastra este deformata! :P

Tot ce se poate, dar conform credintelor voastre care spune ca d-zeu este sfanta treime, in mod logic se deduce ca, d-zeu fiind si Isus este isipitit de diavol nu? Ce este gresit ?

lupini37.135 mesaje#334
DarkBringer a scris:
Tot ce se poate, dar conform credintelor voastre care spune ca d-zeu este sfanta treime, in mod logic se deduce ca, d-zeu fiind si Isus este isipitit de diavol nu?

Este ispitit, dar nu cedează ispitelor. Diavolul a

brudi876 mesaje#336
Enki a scris:
Lasa ce v-au invatat pe voi in brosurele despre Hitler, intotdeauna crestinii "omit" sau "le-a scapat din vedere sa mentioneze" ca Hitler a fost un crestin infocat, si ce a facut a facut pentru motivele pe care ti le-am expus: ura evreii pentru ca evreii l-au ucis pe Isus. Nu stiu ce secta oculta ar putea fi asa mare "fan" Isus incat sa incerce sa ii razbune moartea.

Si acum spune-mi tu mie: nu ti se pare ca Hitler a facut toate acestea si mai mult? De unde s-o fi inspirat? De unde oare....? De la protestantii antisemiti. Las-o balta cu satana si ocultul, ideile lui de la Luther le-a luat.

Hitler nu a fost crestin si nici tatal sau.

Un crestin nu poate obiecta nimic despre moartea Domnului Isus, deoarece El a vrut si daca nu ar fi murit nu ar fi existat crestini. Faptul ca l-au omorat evreii bisericosi sau fariseii, nu inseamna ca tot poporul evreu.

Deci ptr. ca a ales sa fie asa, Domnul D-zeu, crestini trebuie sa-i multumeasca.

Sikaryan11.565 mesaje#337
brudi a scris:
Hitler nu a fost crestin si nici tatal sau.

Un crestin nu poate obiecta nimic despre moartea Domnului Isus, deoarece El a vrut si daca nu ar fi murit nu ar fi existat crestini. Faptul ca l-au omorat evreii bisericosi sau fariseii, nu inseamna ca tot poporul evreu.

Deci ptr. ca a ales sa fie asa, Domnul D-zeu, crestini trebuie sa-i multumeasca.

Iar vorbeste gura fara tine?

Pai cum sa fii murit Isus care si acum e viu ...si mai ales cum sa-l fi omorat niste bieti oameni amarati ...tocmai pe Dumnezeul cel dinainte de toti WeCii?

Aia cu crucea ... a fost o sceneta penibila jucata de un sarlatan care dorea sa impresioneze cu un scop clar dinainte cunoscut pe niste bieti oamenii prosti ai acelor timpuri

... ce murdar din partea lui!

Editat Dum 9 mar 2008 15:46

Enki16.898 mesaje#338
brudi a scris:
Hitler nu a fost crestin si nici tatal sau.

Mai informeaza-te puisor si nu te baga daca nu stii. Nu numai ca Hitler a fost crestin, dar a fost si practicant! A urmat o scoala crestina la o manastire, a fost baiat in altar intr-o biserica catolica. Hitler a fost un mare admirator al lui M. Luther, (ghici care opera a lui Luther o admira!? :o:) Pune mana pe Mein Kampf sau alte scrieri ale lui Hitler si ai sa vezi acolo ca credea in Biblie si in Dumnezeul ei!

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.

Protestantism as such is a better defender of the interests of Germanism, in so far as this is grounded in its genesis and later tradition; it fails, however, in the moment when this defense of national interests must take place in a province which is either absent from the general line of its ideological world and traditional development, or is for some reason rejected.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Thus, Protestantism will always stand up for the advancement of all Germans as such, as long as matters of inner purity or national deepening as well as German freedom are involved, since all these things have a firm foundation in its own being; but it combats with the greatest hostility any attempt to rescue the nation from the embrace of its most mortal enemy, since its attitude toward the Jews just happens to be more or less dogmatically established.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Editat Lun 10 mar 2008 09:54

Ravl36.304 mesaje#339
Gelupanda a scris:
Toata lumea asociaza Numele lui Isus cu umilinta,ascultarea si smerenia bisericilor istorice sau contemporane.Isus a fost un revolutionar sau un popa,profet sau ce o fi fost, care a dat sfaturi omenirii pentru ultimii 2000 de ani?

CUM IL VEDETI AZI PE CEL CARE ESTE ISUS HRISTOS DOMNUL DOMNILOR?A FOST,SAU ESTE, UN REVOLUTIONAR SAU REPREZENTANTUL RELIGIILOR?Nu vreau sa sugerez din start un raspuns.CE REIESE DIN EVANGHELIILE SCRISE DE MARTORII OCULARI ?

din punctul meu de vedere , El este clar un reformator religios, doar că ... exact

Sch2.840 mesaje#340
Enki a scris:
Mai informeaza-te puisor si nu te baga daca nu stii. Nu numai ca Hitler a fost crestin, dar a fost si practicant! A urmat o scoala crestina la o manastire, a fost baiat in altar intr-o biserica catolica. Hitler a fost un mare admirator al lui M. Luther, (ghici care opera a lui Luther o admira!? :o:) Pune mana pe Mein Kampf sau alte scrieri ale lui Hitler si ai sa vezi acolo ca credea in Biblie si in Dumnezeul ei!

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.

Protestantism as such is a better defender of the interests of Germanism, in so far as this is grounded in its genesis and later tradition; it fails, however, in the moment when this defense of national interests must take place in a province which is either absent from the general line of its ideological world and traditional development, or is for some reason rejected.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Thus, Protestantism will always stand up for the advancement of all Germans as such, as long as matters of inner purity or national deepening as well as German freedom are involved, since all these things have a firm foundation in its own being; but it combats with the greatest hostility any attempt to rescue the nation from the embrace of its most mortal enemy, since its attitude toward the Jews just happens to be more or less dogmatically established.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

numai crestin nu a fost Hitler

priveste aceste citate scrise chiar de el

"All of these are quotes from Adolf Hitler:

Night of 11th-12th July, 1941:

National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things. (p 6 & 7)

10th October, 1941, midday:

Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure. (p 43)

14th October, 1941, midday:

The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... Christianity the liar.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State. (p 49-52)

19th October, 1941, night:

The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity.

21st October, 1941, midday:

Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism, the destroyer.... The decisive falsification of Jesus' doctrine was the work of St.Paul. He gave himself to this work... for the purposes of personal exploitation.... Didn't the world see, carried on right into the Middle Ages, the same old system of martyrs, tortures, faggots? Of old, it was in the name of Christianity. Today, it's in the name of Bolshevism. Yesterday the instigator was Saul: the instigator today, Mardochai. Saul was changed into St.Paul, and Mardochai into Karl Marx. By exterminating this pest, we shall do humanity a service of which our soldiers can have no idea. (p 63-65) "

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