George Soros

fitzroy a scris:

OMFG, un "evreu ungur"! :roll:

ce ti se pare asa amuzant? taicasu e evreu ungur el a fost nascut la budapesta...

Daca nu esti la curent cu ce a facut Soros doar pentru Europa de Est (inclusiv Romania) si cat a investit in dezvoltarea societatii civile din zona, nu vorbi. Universitatea pe care a intemeiat-o, la care au studiat gratuit multe mii de est-europeni, bibliotecile, centrele de informare si pregatire, toate sunt extrem de dubioase, cum zici tu. :)

nu zau? din contra aceste activitati mi se par extrem de dubioase,

O controversa care-l precede cu mult pe Soros. Iar "titularii de drept" sunt disputati intens - faptul ca postezi un link cu un clip evident partinitor si care nu ofera argumente e edificator.

Renate Weber nu trebuie sa fie "omul lui Soros" la Bruxelles ca sa aiba o gandire asemanatoare cu a lui (e logic, altfel nu i-ar fi condus fundatia in Romania). Punctul ei de vedere e impartasit si de alti politicieni romani care n-au avut nici o legatura cu Soros. De altfel, mi se pare hilara crizarea din Romania legata de Kosovo, reactia UDMR, s.a.m.d. Daca lasi la o parte nationalismul paranoic, toata chestiunea independentei Kosovo e mult mai discutabila decat lasa sa creada desteptii nostri de politicieni.

Soros nu-l "finanteaza pe John McCain". McCain are cateva fundatii la care Soros a contribuit cu sponsorizari. O relatie pozitiva intre cei doi e evidenta si logica: Soros, un social-democrat, dezaproba politica externa a SUA si se opune, in principiu, conservatorilor radicali. Ori cu o astfel de agenda ai doua alegeri simple; fie sprijini un candidat democrat in speranta ca-l va invinge pe cel republican (ceea ce a facut Soros cu Kerry, mai mult in virtutea dispretului pentru Bush decat a unei mari simpatii pentru Kerry), fie sprijini candidatul republican care ti se pare cel mai flexibil si mai dispus la compromisuri inspre punctele pe care le sustii. Ori acesta din urma e McCain - de unde rezulta si problemele pe care McCain le are acum cu o parte a dreptei (ca dovada articolul din linkul tau, din nou, evident partinitor si propagandist). Simpatia, in acest sens, a lui Soros pentru McCain, e veche si s-a pastrat indiferent de perspectiva reala ca McCain sa candideze cu succes din partea republicanilor (perspectiva care era considerata indepartata, dupa esecul din 2000).

Nu doar ca Soros nu-l finanteaza pe McCain, dar a fost gazda unei gale de strangere de fonduri pentru Obama. In plus, o respecta mult si pe Clinton. Practic, pentru Soros, oricare din cei trei reprezinta o alegere incomparabil mai buna decat "echipa" de acum, iar daca va sustine pe unul sau altul o va face, cred, cu o implicare mult mai redusa ca in urma cu 4 ani (din moment ce interesul lui ca vreunul din cei trei sa nu castige este minor acum).

1.da este evreu ungur, tasu a fost evreu ungur si el s-a nascut la Budapesta.

3.vad ca stii foarte multe despre acest Soros.... esti fan de-al lui ? pentru ca nu e tocmai persoana populara..

3. De ce s-a gasit tocmai aceasta distinsa doamna, pana de curand fosta sefa organizatiilor Soros in Romania sa sustina tacticile secesioniste ale UDMR ?nu e cumva conflict de interese?

http://www.event365.ro/Renate_Weber_inlocu...ia-n335313.html

(stanga Weber, dreapta Soros)

Nu e nevoie decat sa dai un search pe google ca sa vezi cine are dreptate

4.ELECTION 2008

John McCain funded by Soros since 2001

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=56177

5.Criticism of financial activities

In an August 2004 appearance on Chris Wallace's FOX News Sunday, then-Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives Dennis Hastert (Republican), questioned the source of George Soros' money: "You know, Soros' money, some of that is coming from overseas. It could be drug money. We don't know where it comes from." Soros rejected Hastert's criticism as smears using "false charges and mischaracterizations". Hastert was further attacked for "attempt[ing] to stifle critical debate and intimidat[ing] those who believe this administration is leading the country in a ruinous direction."Soros filed an official complaint with the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct.

In 2006, Hastert criticized Soros again, this time in regards to the controversy over whether or not Hastert should have acted on information regarding Rep. Mark Foley: "The people who want to see this thing blow up are ABC News and a lot of Democratic operatives, people funded by George Soros."

Criticism of political activism

In an editorial in September 2007, Investor's Business Daily criticized Soros for funding organizations such as MoveOn.org and has claimed that Soros is not transparent in the way he gives away his money. The newspaper said: "The irony here is that Soros claims to be an advocate of an 'open society.' His OSI does just the legal minimum to disclose its activities. The public shouldn't have to wait until an annual report is out before the light is flipped on about the Open Society's political action."

IBD said that Soros' giving cannot be considered philanthropy to the extent that it is political activism. The editorial compared Soros and Bill Gates, pointing out that the former gave money to improving medical services, while Soros tends to fund foundations and NGOs which he characterises - "misleadingly" - as promoting 'civil society' and 'democracy.'"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros#Critics

WorldNetDaily, also known as WND, is a far right American conservative online news site. Wikipedia

Despre www.theconservativevoice.com ce sa mai spun.

Informatiile pe care ti le-am dat eu le poti gasi cu usurinta in mainstream media. Tu in schimb scormonesti in maculatura de extrema dreapta ca sa-l critici pe Soros pentru ca te-a turbat UDMR-ul. Fun

ce informatii mi-ai dat tu? cum ca e un ingeras si-un batranel pasionat de filosofie ? sa i-o spui lui mutu prietene pe asta :roll:

daca nici linku asta nu-ti place o tinem asa 2 saptamani, am destule linkuri :))

McCain-founded organization funded by leftist George Soros

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Election2008/Default.aspx?id=67091

si nu mi-ai raspuns....esti fan de-ai lui Soros ?, ca nu e tocmai o persoana populara.

Pentru a confirma ce spun eu nu e nevoie decat sa dai un google search, haidi pa

Lazio a scris:

daca nici linku asta nu-ti place o tinem asa 2 saptamani, am destule linkuri :P)

McCain-founded organization funded by leftist George Soros

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Election2008/Default.aspx?id=67091

Bravo, geniule. :) Asta dupa ce am scris eu mai sus ca: McCain are cateva fundatii la care Soros a contribuit cu sponsorizari. :soc: De aici la a spune ca Soros il finanteaza pe McCain, cu implicatia de sprijin electoral, e cale lunga. Pe care o scurteaza maculatura de extrema dreapta pe care o adori, ca deh, oricum nu e pentru oameni obiectivi.

Ce mi se pare haios e ca nici macar daca Soros l-ar finanta direct pe McCain in alegeri nu ai avea un argument. Am explicat mai sus de ce e logica simpatia lui Soros pentru un republican mai nonconformist. Hai sa-ti vand un pont: exista aspecte discutabile din trecutul lui Soros, cum ar fi modul in care speculatiile financiare celebre prin care si-a facut banii se potrivesc cu interpretarea democratiei in viziunea lui. Dar aspectele astea sunt discutate de cei inteligenti si rationali, nu de griveii pe care-i citezi tu.

Si ca sa-ti raspund la intrebare - il respect pe Soros pentru ceea ce a facut bun pentru Europa de Est, pentru noi romanii, si in final pentru mine in particular. Nu am nici o alta simpatie fata de el in rest - nici macar nu m-am prezentat la ceremonia de absolvire a universitatii pe care a infiintat-o, unde mi-ar fi inmanat personal diploma. Dar ceea ce a facut bun e incontestabil. Din tot ceea ce am vazut eu (si textele tale teribiliste nu schimba nimic) daca a facut ceva rau e, in cel mai rau caz, discutabil.

ce-a facut pentru noi romanii bai ipocritule tu pe cine crezi ca pacalesti?

da , hai sa multumim lui George Soros c-a forjat numele si identitatea de "rom" tiganilor pentru care suntem huliti si satanizati peste tot in Europa acum....multumim domnule Soros !!!! :soc:

apropo vad ca linkurile alea le ignori repede pentru motivul cum ca ar fi ziare de "dreapta" deci invoci un conflict de interese.

Drept pentru care te intreb eu pe tine, daca un parlamentar ca Renate Weber, fost sef al Organizatiei Soros Romania, acest Soros fiind un ungur cu activitati dubioase in intreaga lume, fapt confirmat de publicatii din Statele Unite , si cel care a adus nenumarate prejudicii imaginii Romaniei, cum se cheama?

apropo de activitatile sale culturale si filosofice care le sustii tu ca le are... e pur si simplu o imagine falsa, creeata pentru a-si ascunde activitatile obscure care le are. "Drumul spre iad e pavat cu bune intentii" .

capisci?

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ce-a facut pentru noi romanii bai ipocritule tu pe cine crezi ca pacalesti?

da , hai sa multumim lui George Soros c-a forjat numele si identitatea de "rom" tiganilor pentru care suntem huliti si satanizati peste tot in Europa acum....multumim domnule Soros !!!! :)

apropo vad ca linkurile alea le ignori repede pentru motivul cum ca ar fi ziare de "dreapta" deci invoci un conflict de interese.

Drept pentru care te intreb eu pe tine, daca un parlamentar ca Renate Weber, fost sef al Organizatiei Soros Romania, acest Soros fiind un ungur cu activitati dubioase in intreaga lume, fapt confirmat de publicatii din Statele Unite , si cel care a adus nenumarate prejudicii imaginii Romaniei, cum se cheama?

apropo de activitatile sale culturale si filosofice care le sustii tu ca le are... e pur si simplu o imagine falsa, creeata pentru a-si ascunde activitatile obscure care le are. "Drumul spre iad e pavat cu bune intentii" .

capisci?

Boala grea asta a ta. Deja aberezi cu disperare. :soc:

Modul in care pui accentul pe faptul ca e un ungur nu dovedeste decat ca esti un biet sovin. Tot restul decurge de aici.

Ca o regula de bun simt (care evident iti lipseste) e preferabil sa-i tratezi cu mai mult respect pe cei care au facut mult mai mult pentru cei din jur decat tine. Pune deoparte prostiile de extrema dreapta pe care le citesti si vei gasi, simplu si rapid, informatiile relevante:

Din Time, 2007 (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/time100powergivers/article/0,28804,1616375_1615711_1615683,00.html):

Power Givers

George Soros

Cause: Supporting open societies across more than 60 countries through philanthropic organizations and foundations within the network of his Open Society Institute. The efforts and donations of the Hungarian-born businessman and his network encompass a breadth of philanthropic work, from $100 million for an Internet infrastructure for regional Russian universities to $50 million for the Millennium Promise initiative to eradicate extreme poverty in Africa.

Impact: Soros' network has spent $742 million in the U.S. alone, and Soros, 76, has given away more than $6 billion during his career.

Rezultate? Printre altele, "ipocritule", am obtinut o bursa de exceptie (care mi-a deschis apoi calea la alte burse similare), la o universitate de exceptie, prin fundatia lui. Impreuna cu alte sute de romani care au beneficiat de aceleasi burse, din care nu putini imi sunt prieteni si care au ajuns, astfel, sa profeseze in toata lumea la un nivel la care n-ar fi visat altfel. Ar mai fi si micul amanunt al miilor de romani care s-au perindat prin bibliotecile fundatiei intemeiate de el; concret, daca e sa vorbim de Cluj doar, fundatia avea cea mai cautata biblioteca in domeniul stiintelor umane. Nu mai vorbesc de mii de proiecte de invatamant si cultura finantate tot de el. Astea sunt fapte. Ca ele te inteapa in mandria de sovin suparat, e altceva. :P

Cat de Renate Weber, si obsesia ta cu Kosovo - maghiari, practic nu spui nimic. Legatura dintre Kosovo si "tacticile secesioniste ale UDMR", prejudicii aduse imaginii tarii si alte manele, ii agita doar pe Funar, Vadim, Adrian Paunescu, si alti oameni la fel de "emancipati". :( Si daca vrei sa ma contrazici, fa-o cu un argument logic. Greu, nu-i asa? :P

tu esti retardat? ce argumente logice mai vrei.

a adus prejudicii imense de imagine Romaniei, si lupta pentru secesionarea Romaniei, nu crezi ca sunt niste argumente destul de puternice si logice?

am pus accentul ca e ungur pentru simplul fapt ca o subalterna de-a lui e in parlamentul Romaniei si a adoptat pozitia UDMR, vrei sa pun iar intrebarea retorica?

baga-ti bursa lui Soros undeva, pe de-o parte ajuta cateva sute de maghiari pe de alta parte ruineaza Economia Malayesiei si altor tari . Ma intrebi de ce pun accentul ca-i ungur si ma faci sovin dar nu cred ca Universitatea de la Cluj este romaneasca, am dreptate?

Szia maghiare dar aici in Romania nu mai merg diversiunile .

Satan lives in George Soros

The fiction which is interdependency has a prolocutor in the congregation of Moloch. His name is George Soros. No other single person represents the symbol and the substance of Globalism more than this Hungarian-born descendant of Shylock. He is the embodiment of the Merchant from Venice. His public reputation as an astute currency speculator is generous, while his skills as a manipulator and procurer of pain and suffering is shrouded in the footnotes of the financial journals. Claiming to be a philanthropist, his record is literally one of being a patron for indentured enslavement.

His assault on Sterling caused the British empire to shutter. The Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad blamed the American billionaire for nearly ruining Malaysia's economy with massive currency speculation. And Hard-core Russian nationalists decried as "meddling" his funding of progressive newspapers and institutions in post-Soviet Russia. But his incontrovertible talent does not rest in amassing financial fortunes, it lies in his social agenda.

My Open Society will pay for My World

While it is reported widely that Soros funded groups support increased government spending, tax increases, opposes the death penalty and President Bush’s judicial nominees; it has a far more sinister scheme. In report by Neil Hrab - George Soros’ Social Agenda for America - drug legalization, euthanasia, immigration entitlements and feminism are examined. Mr Hrab point out that in the book Open Society: Reforming Global Capitalism, Soros wrote that he is: “rather leery of self-appointment, self righteous” international NGO’s. From his own site Soros proudly claims that his foundations are dedicated to building and maintaining the infrastructure and institutions of an open society. They work closely with OSI to develop and implement a range of programs focusing on civil society, education, media, public health, and human rights as well as social, legal, and economic reform. In recent years, OSI and the Soros foundations network have spent more than $400 million annually to support projects in these and other focus areas.

Double standards for an advocate of a permissive, yet regimented globe? If you think he is a friend of humanity, beware of his public attempt to influence his tribe, by insulting their benefactors. Before the Jewish Funders Network, he recently made these remarks: "There is a resurgence of anti-Semitism in Europe. The policies of the Bush administration and the Sharon administration contribute to that," Soros said. "It

Lazio a scris:

a adus prejudicii imense de imagine Romaniei, si lupta pentru secesionarea Romaniei, nu crezi ca sunt niste argumente destul de puternice si logice?

Pune mana pe un dictionar si invata ce e ala un argument. Tu faci niste afirmatii. Daca nu faci diferenta dintre cele doua inseamna ca ai parasit prea repede gimnaziul. Tipic, de altfel, latratzeilor de genul tau. :soc:

am pus accentul ca e ungur pentru simplul fapt ca o subalterna de-a lui e in parlamentul Romaniei si a adoptat pozitia UDMR, vrei sa pun iar intrebarea retorica?

Pun si eu accentul pe faptul ca nu esti in stare de un singur rationament inteligibil. Weber nu e o subalterna de-a lui, ci fosta directoare a fundatiei lui. Iar relevanta conexiunii dintre nationalitatea lui Soros si opiniile UDMR este mai mica decat legatura dintre tine, ca un om cu mintea scurta, si marele roman Vadim.

E evident ca esti prea confuz pentru a putea discuta pe argumente, esti prea limitat ca sa poti discerne intre informatia obiectiva si porcariile scrise de oameni la fel de crizati ca tine si, din momentul asta, prea banal ca sa-ti mai raspund la ceva. Da' nu dispera, peremei suparati mai sunt p'aici. :)

bai maghiarule raspunde-mi , universitatea din Cluj este romaneasca sau maghiara ?

asta ti se pare argument ?

"De exemplu, operatiunea de schimbare a numelui tiganilor in romi, realizata prin concursul Retelei Soros (Soros Open Network) creeaza neplaceri astazi si romanilor si tiganilor, atat in Romania, cat si, mai ales, in Europa"

http://ziare.ro/1195855382-Cum_au_devenit_romanii_romi

faptul ca vaca asta imputita de Renate Weber a fost inlocuita imediat sa fie desemnata cap de lista al PNL pentru alegerile europarlamentare nu ti se pare ca au facut-o TOCMAI pentru ca acolo era un conflict de interese?

http://www.event365.ro/Renate_Weber_inlocu...ia-n335313.html

relevanta dintre nationalitatea lui Soros si pozitia UDMR este extrem de edificabila. Intamplator se face ca UDMR sa doreasca secesionarea Romaniei fapt declarat acum 2-3 zile de mai multi lideri ai acestui partid, intamplator iar se face ca o sluga a UNGURULUI George Soros sa adopte pozitia UDMR-ului in parlamentul European, pozitie contrara parlamentului Romaniei, propriului partid si intereselor si suveranitatii Romaniei.

nu ti se pare ca-s cam multa coincidente draga maghiarule? si chiar te rog sa te abtii de la a mai raspunde, esti gretos, esti de-a dreptul penibil maghiarule in incercarea ta disperata de a-l scoate imaculat pe acest malefic Soros, co-national de-al tau

George Soros - The Antichrist?

Soros is the embodiment of evil to American conservatives. In saying that I love it when someone paints a picture depicting old George as the Anti-Christ. This in fact is what author Paul R. Hollrah is doing.

Frankly I do not agree with Hollrah’s logic on Soros being the Anti-Christ; however there is a difference between THE Anti-Christ and many anti-Christs. The former is the evil being managed by Satan (of the Revelation of St. John) to hand total physical and spiritual control of the earth to Satan. The later is a reference to human individuals that operate under the oppressive domination of an anti-Christ spirit.

An example of the later would be Adolf Hitler. Nearly the whole spectrum of Christianity can agree on that person. Various divisions will name others having an anti-Christ spirit that includes liberals and conservatives over the 20th and early 21st centuries. I will not debate the validity of those depictions, for that will just lead to a religious debate that people simply will not budge on.

But Soros! Now there is a guy that could be a candidate for an anti-Christ spirit. According to Hollrah’s guess THE Anti-Christ will be a Jew. I assure you, many agree with that guess and many believe it will be a European or an Arab. It is just up for grabs in the theory/conspiracy realm. Old George is simply to old to fit the bill as THE Anti-Christ, however I believe one is coming soon.

A quick editor’s note on Hollrah’s essay: the Blind Conservative format posted by “CD” was somewhat jumbled. Thus I guessed on the grammar and punctuation in many places. If I screwed up the original, my apologies to Paul R. Hollrah.

JRH

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Something to think about.

George Soros - The Antichrist?

Paul R. Hollrah

Author: Paul R. Hollrah

Source: The Family Security Foundation, Inc.

Date: May 10, 2007

George Soros

Why have once-great bastions of freedom, the Western media, become the purveyors of lies, leftist propaganda, and everything else that coarsens and degrades Western civilization? FSM Contributing Editor Paul R. Hollrah has a chilling theory about the possible reality of the Antichrist. Is he here now?

George Soros - The Antichrist?

By Paul R. Hollrah

I am not a big believer in the concept of an antichrist. It’s all far too mystical for me and I’m not into mysticism. I grew up in the Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod, where Church dogma has always held that the Pope is the antichrist.

According to the Lutheran Book of Concord, Smalcald Articles, and Part 2:IV:10, “the pope is the real Antichrist who has raised himself over and set himself against Christ because he will not permit Christians to be saved without his power.”

It is true, the papacy has taken on an aura of princely splendor over the centuries, but to believe that one of those popes “who date back to Christ’s apostle, Simon Peter” could be the antichrist is a stretch; too much of a stretch for me.

However, I may be in the early stages of an epiphany. If the antichrist represents the ultimate evil, as religious fundamentalists tell us, then could it be that much of the unrequited evil we find in the world today is the work of the antichrist? Could that be the reason why the civilized world is faced with a holy war at the hand of Muslims; men who strap suicide bombs to the bellies of their women and children? Could that be why the people of the once-Christian nations of suddenly and quietly acquiesce to the invasion of Islam?

Why have those once-great bastions of freedom, the western media, become the purveyors of lies, leftist propaganda, and everything else that coarsens and degrades western civilization? And why have the leaders of one of our two great American political parties sold their souls so shamelessly and so cheaply in the pursuit of political power?

So, if all of this can be attributed to the antichrist, who is he? According to the website Countdown to Armageddon, “The Antichrist could well rise out of the current chaos in the former . The prophet Ezekiel names him as the ruler of Magog,” a name that Biblical scholars agree denotes a country or region of peoples to the north of . Many have interpreted this to mean modern day . His power base will include the leading nations of , whose leaders, the Bible says, will give their power and strength unto the beast.

The Bible even gives some clues about his personal characteristics. The prophet Daniel wrote that; he will have a “fierce countenance” or stern look, and will be “more stout than his fellows “more proud and boastful.”

So who could it be? Arthur W. Pink, author of The Antichrist, tells us, “The Antichrist will be a Jew,” although his connections and his sphere of influence will by no means confine him to the world of Jewry.

So, just for the sake of argument, let’s consider Gy

Fitzroy, nu te mai obosi. Faptul ca Soros a infiintat o universitate si are o fundatie si ii ajuta pe cei ce doresc sa studieze in strainatate nu il intereseaza pe Lazio, probabil ca pentru el cultura si studiul nu fac doi bani.

Traiasca sovinismul! :soc: Vadim for president! :) Vivant manelele! Il propun pe Adi Minune ministrul culturii in Romania.