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Israel vs Palestina .A castigat sionismul lupta? Daca da, cum?

Început de KeRenSa, Mar 5 feb 2008 · 1.018 răspunsuri · 275.736 vizualizări

desan773 mesaje#831
Naeema a scris:
Ce sa intamplat cu umorul tau cel vestit? Cam lasa de dorit lately.:jester:

pai...o fi umor!!! adica noi sa ne luptam ca chiorii si el sa culeaga roadele!!! :roll:

K0ntr0VerSy13.097 mesaje#832

Binenteles ca va luptati ca bezmeticii pentru niste presupuse 'revelatii' dumnezeiesti.

desan773 mesaje#833
K0ntr0VerSy a scris:
Binenteles ca va luptati ca bezmeticii pentru niste presupuse 'revelatii' dumnezeiesti.

ete na!!! adica asa ai hotarat tu!!!! si la fel ca vali care e obsedat de kazari..tu esti obsedat de percepte religioase care pasami-te conduc evreii in totalitatea lor!!!!..nu am stofa de petagog...o data am spus ce aveam de spus..cine vrea intelege cine nu..treaba lui...aide pa!!!!

K0ntr0VerSy13.097 mesaje#834
desan a scris:
tu esti obsedat de percepte religioase care pasami-te conduc evreii in totalitatea lor!!!!

Prima parte e adevarata.

La a doua trebuie o completare: si unii si altii sunt victime ale aceluiasi dumnezeu.

desan773 mesaje#835
K0ntr0VerSy a scris:
Prima parte e adevarata.

La a doua trebuie o completare: si unii si altii sunt victime ale aceluiasi dumnezeu.

hai sa ma repet..desi nu-mi place..da ce sa fac..te simpatizez...dupa religia iudaica israelul nu poate deveni stat decat la venirea lui mesia!!!! ce e asa greu de inteles??...israelul e stat laic...dar coropisnitele religioase se tot baga peste tot..asa ca...tre sa ne luptam si cu ei si sa-i impiedecam sa ne prefaca in al doilea iran...cum ne luptam??ei incearca sa ne abureasca...si noi ai aburim inapoi... :flowers:

BurQa310 mesaje#836

Israeli Army rabbi 'gave out hate leaflet to troops entering Gaza' - http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/wor...a-14159082.html

The Israeli Army's chief rabbinate gave soldiers preparing to enter the Gaza Strip a booklet implying that all Palestinians are their mortal enemies and advising them that cruelty is sometimes a "good attribute".

The booklet, entitled Go Fight My Fight: A Daily Study Table for the Soldier and Commander in a Time of War, was published especially for Operation Cast Lead, the devastating three-week campaign launched with the stated aim of ending rocket fire against southern Israel. The publication draws on the teachings of Rabbi Shlomo Aviner, head of the Jewish fundamentalist Ateret Cohanim seminary in Jerusalem.

In one section, Rabbi Aviner compares Palestinians to the Philistines, a people depicted in the Bible as a war-like menace and existential threat to Israel.

This is what he has to say on the subject:

"Is it possible to compare today's Palestinians to the Philistines of the past? And if so, is it possible to apply lessons today from the military tactics of Samson and David? A comparison is possible because the Philistines of the past were not natives and had invaded from a foreign land ... They invaded the Land of Israel, a land that did not belong to them and claimed political ownership over our country ... Today the problem is the same. The Palestinians claim they deserve a state here, when in reality there was never a Palestinian or Arab state within the borders of our country. Moreover, most of them are new and came here close to the time of the War of Independence."

In another, the army rabbinate appears to be encouraging soldiers to disregard the international laws of war aimed at protecting civilians, according to Breaking the Silence, the group of Israeli ex-soldiers who disclosed its existence. The booklet cites the renowned medieval Jewish sage Maimonides as saying that "one must not be enticed by the folly of the Gentiles who have mercy for the cruel".

Breaking the Silence is calling for the firing of the chief military rabbi, Brigadier-General Avi Ronzki, over the booklet. The army had no comment on the matter yesterday.

Rabbi Arik Ascherman, the executive director of the Rabbis for Human Rights group, called the booklet "very worrisome", adding "[this is] a minority position in Judaism that doesn't understand the ... necessity of distinguishing between combatants and civilians."

The Israeli newspaper Haaretz points out that text made available to Israeli troops "steps blatantly into politics, sounds racist and can be interpreted as a call to challenge international law when it comes to dealing with enemy civilians."

In Daily Torah studies for the soldier and the commander in Operation Cast Lead there is the statement: "[There is] a biblical ban on surrendering a single millimeter of it [the Land of Israel] to gentiles, though all sorts of impure distortions and foolishness of autonomy, enclaves and other national weaknesses. We will not abandon it to the hands of another nation, not a finger, not a nail of it."

In addition to the official publications made available through the army rabbinate, extreme right-wing Israeli groups also managed to get leaflets and messages into IDF bases. One such flyer sings the praises of Baruch Goldstein, who massacred unarmed Palestinians in Hebron. It is attributed to a group affiliated with Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg.

Si cica numai arabii au extremisti religiosi, pentru unii de pe-aici. Imi place ca in Israel sunt numiti generali - rabbi. :P :roll:

And another thing - Is an Israeli Jewish sense of victimization perpetuating the conflict with Palestinians?

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects/pages...?itemNo=1060061

vali_10.652 mesaje#837
BurQa a scris:
Si cica numai arabii au extremisti religiosi, pentru unii de pe-aici. Imi place ca in Israel sunt numiti generali - rabbi. :P :roll:

hai sa nu fim rai .in toate armatele exista preoti soldati.

MarQuiss8 mesaje#838

ISRAEL = stat ILEGAL !!!

singurul stat care a incalcat si incalca cele mai multe rezolutii ON, de ce?? cum isi permite?? cum are atat putere??, aveti mai sus un scurt rasp,

Editat Mie 4 feb 2009 06:00

Cleric Preston3.075 mesaje#839
MarQuiss a scris:
ISRAEL = stat ILEGAL !!!

singurul stat care a incalcat si incalca cele mai multe rezolutii ON, de ce?? cum isi permite?? cum are atat putere??, aveti mai sus un scurt rasp,

citeste Biblia si o sa vezi de unde are atata putere, de la YHWH

esti incult

MarQuiss8 mesaje#840

mai baietele nu stiu pe ce planeta te afli, dar eu vb mai devreme retoric...

o scurta intrebare, dk ai putina demnitate raspunde sincer - esti evreu sau roman?? :cheer:

pe linga asta am observat k pe linga faptul k te arunci k fata la maritis sau fata de pe centura in a da calificative tuturor care nu-ti impartasesc opinia naiva si simplista nu faci decat sa dai in cap oricui vine cu argumente Solide vis-a-vis de regimul asupritor al Israelului fata de un popor fortat sa traiasca in saracie si mizerie si nu ma lua k istorie k esti praf !!!

MERGI PE BURTA, chiar daca esti evreu nu poti fi chiar atat de absurd ! :cry:

Editat Mie 4 feb 2009 06:40

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