zexelica 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 Aaaa, bravo! Ai verificat si tu un vers! E un inceput bun. Atunci poti verifica si versul asta: 1 Timothy 3:16 16And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. ΠΡΟΣ ΤΙΜΟΘΕΟΝ Α΄ 3:16 16και ομολογουμενως μεγα εστιν το της ευσεβειας μυστηριον θεος εφανερωθη εν σαρκι εδικαιωθη εν πνευματι ωφθη αγγελοις εκηρυχθη εν εθνεσιν επιστευθη εν κοσμω ανεληφθη εν δοξη Dumnzeu s-a intrupat. Adica Isus=Dumnezeu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marinaru 133 Report post Posted October 18, 2007 Nu...acolo in realitate este "CEL CE si nu GOD/THEOS/DUMNEZEU". :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marinaru 133 Report post Posted October 18, 2007 Daca de maine eu pun acolo "marinaru" nu inseamna ca asa si este. In realitate acolo este "CEL CE" toate manuscrisele inainte de sec. IX scriu "CEL CE" si nu "DUMNEZEU". Cele care scriu "Dumnezeu" sunt cele bizantine din motive lesne de inteles. Interpretarile tale daca se bazeaza pe astfel de argumente inseamna ca sunt total eronate. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zexelica 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2007 Care manuscrise dinainte de sce IX? E o inventie de-a martorilor, stai linistit. La fel ca cea din Ioan 1:1, in care ei sustin ca nu este scrisa corect.......... si unde spune ca Cuvantul era DUMNEZEU. Inventii pt care Charles Russel a si fost dat in judecata si a pierdut. Un fel de coana mare 2.......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marinaru 133 Report post Posted October 19, 2007 Nu este nici o inventie a martorilor. Cum care ? Tu iar nu citesti ce scriu... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zexelica 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2007 Eu citesc cu mare atentie ce scrii. Insa cele care nu sunt bizantine, care sunt? Care sunt acele manuscrise care sunt de acord cu Charlie? Care a fost la proces si a declarat ca stie greaca si cand l-a intrebat un expert nu a stiut sa spuna nimic in acea limba.......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marinaru 133 Report post Posted October 20, 2007 8) Nu inteleg ce vrei sa spui...si banuiesc ca nici tu ce spun eu. Sa reformulez mai pe scurt si mai simplu. NU ESTE AUTENTIC ACOLO "DUMNEZEU" CI "CEL CEL". Manuscrisele care scriu cu Dumnezeu sunt manuscrise care au fost scrise dupa anul 700. Sunt manuscrise modificate de copisti sau traducatori din motive teologice...evident pentru a justifica trinitatea. Am fost clar ? :blink: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zexelica 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2007 Ai fost foarte clar, insa manuscrisul folosit in traducerea King James s-a folosit un manuscris de prin anul 150. Insa, stiu.........nu e bun! Oamenii, inafara de Charles Russel sunt nebuni!!! Asta-i doctrina martorilor. Manuscrisul la care te referi tu ca nu scrie este Westcott-Hort din 1881 si este "lucrat" de doctrina martorilor, cei doi fiind teologi iehovisti. Nici Stephanus de la 1550 si nici Scrievener de la 1894 nu scriu "cel ce" ci "Theos". Dumnezeu s-a intrupat!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marinaru 133 Report post Posted October 20, 2007 Nu exista asa ceva dragule. Eu nu ma refer la un manuscris anume CI LA TOATE CARE EXISTA. Care este manuscrisul din 150 care scrie "DUMNEZEU" si nu "CEL CEL" ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zexelica 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2007 Nu exista asa ceva dragule. Eu nu ma refer la un manuscris anume CI LA TOATE CARE EXISTA. Care este manuscrisul din 150 care scrie "DUMNEZEU" si nu "CEL CEL" ? Iti arat unde scrie "THEOS" ΠΡΟΣ ΤΙΜΟΘΕΟΝ Α΄ 3:16 - 1550 Stephanus New Testament TR1550 Public Domain 16και ομολογουμενως μεγα εστιν το της ευσεβειας μυστηριον θεος εφανερωθη εν σαρκι εδικαιωθη εν πνευματι ωφθη αγγελοις εκηρυχθη εν εθνεσιν επιστευθη εν κοσμω ανεληφθη εν δοξη ΠΡΟΣ ΤΙΜΟΘΕΟΝ Α΄ 3:16 - 1894 Scrivener New Testament (TR1894) Public Domain 16και ομολογουμενως μεγα εστιν το της ευσεβειας μυστηριον θεος εφανερωθη εν σαρκι εδικαιωθη εν πνευματι ωφθη αγγελοις εκηρυχθη εν εθνεσιν επιστευθη εν κοσμω ανεληφθη εν δοξη Deci, scrie............THEOS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
