Enki a scris:
Da, stiu si de ceilalti din alte culturi, nu am avut timp sa caut exact care din numele de zei le-a folosit pentru extraterestri lui ca sa ii pun pe toti, de aceea m-am rezumat doar la zeii egipteni.
Mai, si ce chestie, coincidenta naibii, sa semene numele cu zeitati cunoscute din culturi importante. Oare ce vrea sa insemne asta? Hmmmm
Atata timp cat vine el si transmite mesajele extraterestrilor, o face pe ambasadorul.
Ei, nu te-ai interesat ca lumea. Dar nu-i bai. acum ai aflat.
Dacă tu vrei să-l numești „ambasador”, asta e. El doar povestește o istorie.
Enki a scris:
Poate nu stii ca exista un altar pleiadian. Si intreaga atitudine a adeptilor cu privire la "mesajele" transmise prin profetul Billy ,nu este totul decat o alta secta new age. Nu minimaliza influenta si spalarea pe creier care poate sa o faca un carismatic precum Billy Meier.
A, si ce te faci, ca exista o secta ca sa o numesc asa, care si aia se pretind (ca primesc mesaje de la) Pleiadieni, si zic ca Billy minte cand zice ca e singurul contactat de pleiadieni. Cica e unu Orhon pleiadianul, nu stiu, ia cauta.
Chestiile astea, cu „altarul pleiadian”, cu sectele și cei care pretind că primesc mesaje de la pleiadieni, n-au nicio legătură cu ceea ce spune Billy Maier.
Pe ce te bazezi când afirmi că Billy minte când zice că singurul contactat de pleiadieni?
Enki a scris:
Hai mai Vriies, pe bune? I-au trucat altii pozele, si el e nevinovat? Inclusiv pozele din calatoria in timp, cu pterozaurul? Asa zisele poze facute din spatiu, care sunt fotografii dupa animatii NASA de popularizare/prezentare a satelitilor si tehnologiilor lor?
Si daca i le-au trucat altii, el nu s-a prins ca i le-au trucat? Adica NU STIA ce pozase, si dupa aceea NU STIA ce imagini a ales pentru propriile carti? Sa fim seriosi.
Daca vrei tu sa crezi, chiar si DUPA ce urmaresti primul filmulet postat de mine, go ahead. Dar in mine n-ai gasit naivul care sa inghita gogosi de astea umflate.
Da, i-au trucat alții unele poze. Aia cu fetele, aia cu pterozaurul și posibil și aia din spațiu, la care te referi și posibil încă vreo două-trei. Probabil că n-a știut. Dacă cineva vrea să te păcălească, atunci te păcălește.
Eu am studiat mult mai mult despre cazul Billy Maier decât tine. Tu nu faci decât să pui colea niște linkuri slăbuțe. Am o privire de ansamblu mai vastă decât tine asupra acestui caz.
Eu nu cred, ci doar analizez. Are sute de poze despre ozn-uri, reiterez:



Ce cusur le găsești la acestea? pe ce bază poți să afirmi că sunt trucate?
Enki a scris:
Dar nici nu e nevoie de marturia ex-nevestii, sunt zeci de oameni care au demonstrat, poza cu poza, de unde a luat fotografiile pe care le-a fotografiat, apoi scanat, apoi fotografiat, de a ajuns la imaginile pe care le-a prezentat in carti. Doar sa vrei sa le cauti.
Dar, cum spune posterul din X-files, daca e cu "I WANT TO BELIEVE" atunci crezi indiferent cate argumente si dovezi exista contra.
Are you a BELIEVER, Vriies?
Ce specialistii lui peste au analizat pozele alea, frate? Sunt rizibile pozele, pot si eu sa fac o poza trucata si sa imi rog doi prieteni sa isi dea cuvantul lor de specialist ca sunt reale.
Hai sa discutam chestiuni serioase, nu pe Billy.
Deci, hai cu chestiuni serioase.
Ceea ce au demonstrat acei „zeci de oameni” se referă strict la acele poze care au fost trucate. La celelalte sute, mucles, nici măcar o vorbă!
Nu sunt un credincios, dragă, ci doar am cercetat acest caz muuult mai mult decât tine. Și dacă vrei, îți pot povesti o serie de inadvertențe pe care eu le-am sesizat colea.
Uite specialiștii care au analizat cazul la vremea respectivă:
Wendelle Stevens(lead investigator, Meier case)
"Because of the exceptional number of sharp clear photographs of structured objects, many in series and sequence, an unusual opportunity for scientific analysis was recognized. All of the established photogrammetric and computer analysis techniques were examined and some of them tried with affirmative result. It was then decided that what was needed was a whole new approach to the problem of analyzing photographs of Unidentified Flying Objects.
Discussions were held with leaders in this field of research including optical sciences engineers, aeronautical engineers, computer programmers, laser specialists and photographic technicians, and the latest state-of-the-art equipment was reviewed and evaluated. These experts worked together, inventing as they proceeded, in an effort to come up with a procedure that would definitely prove the nature of the subject photographed in UFO cases such as this."
UFO Contact From The Pleiades: A Preliminary Investigation Report pp269-270
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Jim Dilettoso(investigator, Meier case)
"This paper is an overview. It is intended to give the layman and scientist a feeling for what is available for use in PhotogrametricAnalysis of UFO Photographs. The techniques described have been simplified as much as possible, but are based on complex testing procedures. The procedures have been consolidated from the methods used by NASA, principally those at Jet Propulsion Laboratory; LANDSAT, Nuclear Medicine; The US Navy, and others."
UFO Contact From The Pleiades: A Preliminary Investigation Report p380
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"Some said the case was a hoax, but lab results differed. We persevered, though, and eventually had found many professionals, who under secrecy and non-disclosure agreements tested these UFO pictures. The secrecy was critical. These labs were not generally authorized to perform personal projects, like testing UFO pictures. So when other UFO researchers, hell bent on getting into the case, made inquiries into some of the places we had been, they would, as agreed, deny any involvement on their part in testing the Billy Meier UFO photographs. Although not one lab found the pictures to be a hoax, UFO clubs like APRO and the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) were claiming that it was a hoax, and debunker Kal Korff the natural champion."
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Neil Davis(physicist, Design Technology)
"Nothing was found in the examination of the print which could cause me to believe that the object in the photos is anything other than alarge object photographed a distance from the camera."
UFO Contact From The Pleiades: A Preliminary Investigation Report pp276-277
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Robert Post(head of JPL photo lab, 1979)
"From a photography standpoint, you couldn't see anything that was fake about the Meier photos. That's what struck me. They looked like legitimate photographs."
Michael Malin(planetary sciences, ASU/JPL)
"I find the photographs themselves credible, they're good photographs. They appear to represent a real phenomenon."
Eric Eliason(U.S. Geological Survey/Pioneer 10)
"In the photographs there were no sharp breaks where you could see it had been somehow artificially dubbed. And if that dubbing was registered in the film, the computer would have seen it. We didn't see anything."
Wally Gentleman(director of special photographic effects for Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey)
"My greatest problem is that for anybody faking this" (he pointed to one of the photographs) "the shadow that is thrown onto that tree is correct. Therefore, if somebody is faking it they have an expert there. And being an expert myself, I know that that expert knowledge is very hard to come by. So I say, 'Well, is that expert knowledge there or isn't it there?' Because if the expert knowledge isn't there, this has got to be real."
An Open Letter to the UFO Community, Kinder, Gary, MUFON UFO Journal , No. 228, pp. 3-8, April 1987
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