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dillema933 mesaje#841
Hmd a scris:
Buna

O zic sa fii mai optimista si sa-ti dai seama ca ALI i-a aratat unde sa stearga.

Nu inteleg pe cine vrei sa bagi in dubii?:focus:

aha...ai si tu dreptate, dar celelalte hadituri in care descriu mult mai clar faptul ca el stia sa scrie si sa citeasca???

ce zici de stiinta lui Mohamed in hadituri.... Geologia !!!

Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 4, Book 54, Number 421:

Volume 4, Book 54, Number 421:

Narrated Abu Dhar:

The Prophet asked me at sunset, "Do you know where the sun goes (at the time of sunset)?" I replied, "Allah and His Apostle know better." He said, "It goes (i.e. travels) till it prostrates Itself underneath the Throne and takes the permission to rise again, and it is permitted and then (a time will come when) it will be about to prostrate itself but its prostration will not be accepted, and it will ask permission to go on its course but it will not be permitted, but it will be ordered to return whence it has come and so it will rise in the west. And that is the interpretation of the Statement of Allah: "And the sun Runs its fixed course For a term (decreed). that is The Decree of (Allah) The Exalted in Might, The All-Knowing." (36.38)

Povestita de Abu Dhar: Profetul m-a intrebat la apusul soarelui, " Stii unde se duce soarele ( in timpul apusului de soare)?" Eu am replicat, " Allah si Apostolul lui stiu mai bine". El a spus, "el merge (calatoreste) pana se prosterneaza singur dedesuptul Scaunului si cere permisiunea sa rasara din nou, si ii este permisa si apoi( va veni timpul cand) el se va prosterna si prosternarea sa nu va fi acceptata, si el va cere permisiunea sa mearga in cursul lui dar nu ii va fi permis, dar ii va ordona sa se intoarca de unde a venit si el va rasari in vest. Si aceasta este INTERPRETAREA DECLARATIEI lui Allah:" Si ruta soarelui este fixata pe o durata (stabilita). acesta este Decretul lui Allah Preamarit in putere, Si a toate cunoscator"

wowww...deci soarele cand rasare se prosterneaza in fata lui allah apoi rasare, probabil in timpul eclipselor, Allah s-a aratat sovaitor sa ii permita Soarelui sa rasara din nou ...super

Se pare Copernic a murit degeaba as pe rug in 1543 tot de fanatici ca voi...

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/h...ri/054.sbt.html

Satan in your nose

Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 4, Book 54, Number 516:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "If anyone of you rouses from sleep and performs the ablution, he should wash his nose by putting water in it and then blowing it out thrice, because Satan has stayed in the upper part of his nose all the night."

Povestita de Abu Huraira:

Profetul a spus, "Daca oricine te trezesti din somn si faci ablutitia, el a ar trebui sa isi spele si nasul punand apa in el si apoi improspateaza-l de trei ori , pentru ca Satan a stat in partea de sus a nasului lui toata noaptea." :friends:

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/h...ri/054.sbt.html

Editat Vin 27 oct 2006 18:28

dillema933 mesaje#842

Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 1, Book 4, Number 215:

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:

Once the Prophet, while passing through one of the grave-yards of Medina or Mecca heard the voices of two persons who were being tortured in their graves. The Prophet said, "These two persons are being tortured not for a major sin (to avoid)." The Prophet then added, "Yes! (they are being tortured for a major sin). Indeed, one of them never saved himself from being soiled with his urine while the other used to go about with calumnies (to make enmiy between friends). The Prophet then asked for a green leaf of a date-palm tree, broke it into two pieces and put one on each grave. On being asked why he had done so, he replied, "I hope that their torture might be lessened, till these get died."

Povestita de Ibn Abbas:

" O data Profetul, in timp ce trecea printr-un cimitir din MEdina sau Mecca a auzit vocile a doua persoane care erau torturate in mormanturile lor :focus: . Profetul a spus, "Aceste doua persoane sunt torturate nu pentru un pacat important ( sa evite). Profetul apoi a adaugat, " Da! (ei sunt torturati pentru un pacat important). Intradevar, unul din ei nici o data nu s-a scutit de a se spurce cu urina lui in timp ce altii obisnuiau sa mearga cu calomnii ( sa faca dusmanii intre prieteni). Profetul apoi a cerut o frunza de palmier de date, a rupto in doua piece si a pus-o pe fiecare mormant. La intrebarea de ce a facut asta, el a raspuns," Sper ca tortura lor sa fie mai mai mica, pana vor muri. :friends:

(adica frunza se va umezi cu urina si urina va fi mai putina ..deci pedeapsa mai mica...misto logica

este explicata aici mai pe indelete

Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 2, Book 23, Number 443:

Narrated Ibn Abbas:

The Prophet once passed by two graves, and those two persons (in the graves) were being tortured. He said, "They are being tortured not for a great thing (to avoid). One of them never saved himself from being soiled with his urine, while the other was going about with calumnies (to make enmity between friends). He then took a green leaf of a date-palm tree split it into two pieces and fixed one on each grave. The people said, "O Allah's Apostle! Why have you done so?" He replied, "I hope that their punishment may be lessened till they (the leaf) become dry."

"Sper ca pedeapsa lor va fi mai mica pana cand frunzele vor deveni umede"

Si totusi sa bei urina este OK

(pana la urma infunzi iadul daca te murdaresti de urina sau este de fapt medicament???)

Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 1, Book 4, Number 234:

Narrated Abu Qilaba:

Anas said, "Some people of 'Ukl or 'Uraina tribe came to Medina and its climate did not suit them. So the Prophet ordered them to go to the herd of (Milch) camels and to drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). So they went as directed and after they became healthy, they killed the shepherd of the Prophet and drove away all the camels. The news reached the Prophet early in the morning and he sent (men) in their pursuit and they were captured and brought at noon. He then ordered to cut their hands and feet (and it was done), and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron, They were put in 'Al-Harra' and when they asked for water, no water was given to them." Abu Qilaba said, "Those people committed theft and murder, became infidels after embracing Islam and fought against Allah and His Apostle."

Editat Vin 27 oct 2006 18:49

maleahi365 mesaje#843

6. Gemeţi! căci ziua Domnului este aproape: ea vine ca o pustiire a Celui Atotputernic!

7. De aceea toate m

dillema933 mesaje#845

http://answer-islam.org/Inspiredhadith2.html#PARADISE

What physically happened to Muhammad when he received so-called revelations?

Muhammad experienced ringing in his ears, like bells. Sweat was on his forehead ( Mohamed auzea suner de clopotei. Transpira fruntea .

Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 1, Book 1, Number 2:

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/h...tml#001.001.002

Narrated 'Aisha: (the mother of the faithful believers)

Al-Harith bin Hisham asked Allah's Apostle "O Allah's Apostle! How is the Divine Inspiration revealed to you?" Allah's Apostle replied, "Sometimes it is (revealed) like the ringing of a bell, this form of Inspiration is the hardest of all and then this state passes ' off after I have grasped what is inspired. Sometimes the Angel comes in the form of a man and talks to me and I grasp whatever he says." 'Aisha added: Verily I saw the Prophet being inspired Divinely on a very cold day and noticed the Sweat dropping from his forehead (as the Inspiration was over).

His heart would beat rapidly (inima ii batea rapid)

Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 1, Book 1, Number 3:

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/h...tml#001.001.003

Narrated 'Aisha:

Hmd160 mesaje#846

draga mea nu am timp sa citesc tot, dar ai dreptate sa nu intelegi nimic daca tu nu vrei sa te gandesti la sensul metaforic al acestor hadisuri. Daca febra e din iad ,ca un exemplu doar, inseamna ca omul asa va simti acolo la caldurica, ca nu a fost ea febra adusa la colet din iad, hai sa fim mai seriosi si cugeta si tu cu inima buna la ce citesti de pe site-urile americane....Numai daca nu ai alte intentii in afara de a invata ceva nou...Daca esti de la secu... nu am decat sa zic ca esti o cauza pierduta. Esti platita sa faci chestia asta...:friends: sper sa ma insel.

Intra si tu pe site-ul www.islamulazi.ro sa vezi si punctul de vedere al musulmanilor

marinaru8.806 mesaje#847

dillema trebuie sa recunosc ca ai facut multe cercetari si prezinti multe argumente...si mai ales credibile pentru ca sunt scrise pe usc.edu adica University of Southern California...

maleahi365 mesaje#848

BUN si care este SCOPUL ?

caci omul nu poate fi convins decat doar PRIN CUVANTUL LUI DUMNEZEU ....oricate argumente pro sau contra ar aduce cineva ,cuvintele oamenilor nu au putere!!

37. Căci nici un cuv

dillema933 mesaje#849
Hmd a scris:
draga mea nu am timp sa citesc tot, dar ai dreptate sa nu intelegi nimic daca tu nu vrei sa te gandesti la sensul metaforic al acestor hadisuri. Daca febra e din iad ,ca un exemplu doar, inseamna ca omul asa va simti acolo la caldurica, ca nu a fost ea febra adusa la colet din iad, hai sa fim mai seriosi si cugeta si tu cu inima buna la ce citesti de pe site-urile americane....Numai daca nu ai alte intentii in afara de a invata ceva nou...Daca esti de la secu... nu am decat sa zic ca esti o cauza pierduta. Esti platita sa faci chestia asta...:focus: sper sa ma insel.

Intra si tu pe site-ul www.islamulazi.ro sa vezi si punctul de vedere al musulmanilor

Ce e febra? mama dar ti-a trebuit multa imaginatie...sincer noroc de tine ca m-ai dumirit altfel muream proasta: deci febra este din IAD...si cine a fost in iad sa afirme ca intradevar iadul este un cazan cu smoala si foc...mai precis caldurica mentionata de tine.

Iar cazanul cu smoala tot o metafora a iadului ..deci din metafora in metafora...de la o biata febra provocata de prezenta unei infectii in organism...am ajuns la Focul Iadului....bai da multa imaginatie ti-a trebuit sincer...dar chestia cu ca satan s-a pisat in urechea aluia care nu a auzit strigarea de rugaciune? dar violul sclavelor? dar pradarea caravanelor, dar invadarea oraselor...cum le mai explici?

ce metatore ai sa mai folosesti

Daca ai fi spus de Iisus ...pildele Lui..alea da metafore...dar Mohamed fustangiu, violator, criminal, pedofil etc etc etc sincer il cred pe cuvant CICA FEBRA VINE DIN IAD

nu observ nici o comparatie ..nici o metafora STIMATE HMD - inginer parca erai...oups :friends:

Editat Vin 27 oct 2006 21:50

maleahi365 mesaje#850

de ce nu va OPRITI ,,,,,oricum demonstrati URA si INTOLERANTA...VOI NICI NU CITITI ALTE POSTARI .doar va trageti de par ,ca tatele in piata,....RUSINE .. :friends:

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