Parlamentari platiti de partidele din care provin

Schimbarea2012, la May 15 2007, 07:01 PM, a spus:

Jurnalistii englezi elogiaza activitatea fostului ministru al Justitiei, Monica Macovei, pe care o numesc "formidabila" si apreciza efortul de depus de aceasta si de Traian Basescu pentru lupta anticoruptie declansata dupa gravele semnale de alarma ale Uniunii Europene. Cititi articolul din "The Times" aici.

Shady dealings

— Romania is the most corrupt EU country, according to Transparency International

— The security service and ministers were implicated in massive cigarette smuggling racket in 1993. No one was convicted. There was a second similar tobacco scandal in 1998

— Ministers, deputies and more than 100 civil servants were accused of illegal property deals 1995, which a parliamentry report ignored

— Security service and ministers were involved in breaking UN sanctions against the former Yugoslavia

— Dacia-Felix Bank, heavilly backed by politicians who shielded its incompetence, goes broke

— National Investment Fund, managed by ex-Securitate spies, collapses 2000. Only three executives jailed, six years later

Source: Romanian press reports

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Most of the romanian people are actively supporting the president in his fight with the corrupt polticians and oligarchs, that got rich over night, most of them former senior memebrs of the comunist party, or from Securitatea.

After Mr Basescu and the formidable Justice Minister, Monica Macovei, had been elbowed from power, a lot of changes are in progress in the justice departament. Many prosecutors, that were investigating economical frauds of major oligarchs or politicians have been fired, in just a week. The situation is not good here, the media has a very powerfull propaganda against him, he has been banned from public television. So as the president is in trial now, he was not allowed to publicly defend himself, and the laws are changing as the trial is in proges.
However we still hope, that after the referendum the situation will come back to normal, and the politicians will respect a simple rule of democracy : the will of the people!

Octavian, Bucharest, Romania

Would you like to work 10 to 12 hours a day, 5 or 6 days per week, for a salary of 350 Euros per month in a country where you need some 700 Euros to eat 3 meals a day, pay your bills and buy a T-shirt occasionally? NO? Neither the Romanians.
Do you think that there are no crimes committed by the British, Irish, Americans, French?
Stop somplaining. If your country wasn't a great coloniser, you will not be able to gain your salary today, for you may ignore it, but you need so much those Romanians, Bulgars or Indians to do the jobs you do not thiks are good enough for you, to pay your taxes and to make Great Britain the economic power it is today!
UE needs Romania to enlarge its borders. UE needs Romanian workers and Romanian brains (the IT recruits in India and Romania).
The majority of Romanians gave you windows, homes, food, looked for your children and payed taxes. The Romanians are also University teachers, engeneers lawers, doctors and writers.

A.B., Lyon, France

I will tell you why is Romania in EU: Because the older EU members (the big producers, like allso UK is) need additional market places for selling their products, and need new places where to develop their bussines based on cheep work, and good bussines conditions. The marekts in UK, Germnay and the big EU countryes are filled up and cannot develop at the same rate they would in a country that is in tranzition (in developement). This is why EU is extending his boundries, and will continue on expanding.
I think is fair to say UE needs Romania as much as Romania needs UE.

Alex21, Timisoara, Romania

whether we should be or not an eu member it is kinda late for you to judge. the fact is we are. and even if you like it or not, sooner or later britain will have to open the labour market for us. fair play,as there are numerous brits who are buying properties in romania now, thus making the prices to rocket . the 200000 chinese workers thing was is just a mith created by the right wing tabloids who are trying to scare the nation by creating a danger of a chinese invasion, pretty much the same as the romanian invasion scares the british. and yeah, it might be that when we will allowed to work there we will come in as big numbers as the poles did. if you don`t like it , tough. i`ve heard that they really need staff at bnp nowadays.

brebe, ploesti, romania

I understand Your view, Mr. B.T., however I must disagree, as what You say is oversimplified. Besides some criminals, which are normal in every society, Romania offers the EU some of the most well-prepared professionals in IT, some of the best doctors and a lot of excellent students and future university professors. Furthermore a great part of the Romanians who work legally in the other EU states are praised by employers as being the most hardworking people they have seen. Last but not least, the Romanian youth speaks more languages than other European youth, and wins most of the international intellectual competitions. The problem is that Your press is too much in love with scandal, and shows You only the dark side: a prostitute sells better than thousands of hardworking intellectuals. But I think that part of the problem is that ordinary people in the EU states are opaque to other cultures and know nothing about the cultural richness of easter European nations.

L.D., Brasov, Romania

Dear B.T, from Caversham, Berkshire ,maybe you should try to find out more facts about Romania and romanians before having your say. The situation in Romania is unicue, and some romanian are triyng to make a life faraway from home. You do not have the right to say that they are turning Europe back in the Middle Age. They are not all prostitutes and they are not all triyng to sell their children. They are just triyng to make a better life for them. Just because you were lucky enough to be born in the right country does not mean that your are better then the rest.

Chaning, Bucharet, Romania

The Times articles is fairly good, but it omits a lot of important aspects of Romanian politics. For example, the detail that those who impeached the president also forced the Constitutional Court to change the referendum law a few weeks before the impeachment referendum! Whoever knows about Romanian politics knows that Romanian mafia and Russian economics interests are involved in the current crisis. Unfortunately this is not well explained in this article.

MF, Woking, Surrey

For M. Big, Northampton,
How do you know that this article is poor researched? Have you ever been in Romania? I live in Bucharest, an I confirm that everything that you have read in this article is true. And this is not all...The article is not saying who are the people that stay against president Basescu...comunists and comunist political police officers.

gelu, bucharest, romania

It is true that mr Basescu is now under siege, because he is the only one brave enough to fight for Romania.
It is quite funny that people forgot now the events in '90s, when Ion Iliescu asked a street fight from the miners.
At that time, romanians were manipulated, and didn't know exactly what happened, how many people died or how many were injuried. Only now, when I see Europe's reaction at that time, to that events I realize how deep the truth is.
And now, Iliescu plays the role of an inocent man, supporting a left political group, and fights for what he calls democracy.
Well mr Iliescu, democracy can not be made with street fighting, with political crise, or with the same lies that we hear since '89.
We would like to have a real democracy, free of coruption and comunism.
We would like to know that our children have an education, a future, culture, jobs, and many other things that never were possible in the past, when Iliescu was president.

Catalin, Bucharest, Romania

FOR B.T.

TO claim that Romania is a source of crime and corruptionfor Uk's own misery is a little narrow minded. After all UK has its own criminals within and without the borders. Every country has its own share of criminal people. This however does not qualify descriptions of the country in such derogative forms. At the moment over 2 million romanians live and work in EU with the exception of UK and most of them bring positive contributions to their new home.
All the data about the country is too old to be taken seriously. The country's commitment to democracy and prosperity remains unshaken. Moreover, in spite of political instability Romania's economy is still booming and growing at the fastest rate currently in the EU. What happens in Romania has precedent in the EU. Italy has always had problems with corruption and yet it has prospered.

basyl wyatt, Oxford, UK

Have you been to Romania, B.T.?You can judge a nation by some people who emigrated in UK or some prostitutes...or other extreme examples from the media.No kid from Romania killed his colleagues because he wase depresed like in US or in your country.There is many good things in Romania, and we are very smart people..but, ya we have stupid leaders as you can see.After 45 years of comunism with one tv station, 10 min for day of cartoons:) and restriction to food, heat and many other things..is take long time to recover.Anyway you should come here to visit and see if we are the way you think.

Catul, Bacau, Romania

Well, I am a Romanian and I live in Bucharest. So I am very close to these realities. Although I have never been a Basescu's fan, I have to admit that they way he was suspended and all actions taken against him are unbelievable.
I am not sure if his oponents realise this, but they have turned him into a hero.
As for the new Justice Minister, what can I say...He is destroying everything which Monica Macovei did. If I were the Prime Minister of Romania, I would be ashamed to have such a person in my team.

Anca Stefanescu, Bucharest, Romania

The most politically orientated and poor researched article I ever seen. I dont know why I lost my time with it?

M. Big, Northampton,

The present interim President of Romania was involved himself in breaking UN sanctions against Yu, through a company put on the name of his wife. The most important weekly satirical magazine wrote about that at the time.
You forgot to tell about Bancorex, another bank devoided by politicians and police officers! And about Caritas also, a "gold mine" for some of the politicians.
Well, Basescu is not a saint, but one cannot help himself to ask: what these guys (Basescu and Macovei) did to stir up so hardly all the politicians (except Democrats, who counts for less than 25%), from right to left, almost all of them coming from the old communist party's structures?

Martin Zick, Bucharest, Romania

Why is Romania a member of EU ?? All the Romanians give us is corruption, misery and crimes. In the French news, a couple of Romanians got arrested last week end because they were selling their 2 months daughter. Same thing for Romanian prostitutes and single mothers arriving in France. We are back in the Middle Age !
The Romanians emigrating in UK say there is no job in their country, so why is their government recruiting 200 000 Chinese workers then???

B.T, Caversham, Berkshire

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