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Scris 13 January 2007 - 01:33 AM

http://www.oldameric...y.org/14pts.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3...q=fascism%2BUSA

America si fascismul, siteul e facut ca o impotrivire la siteul despre New American Century, se arata mai multe principii definitorii ale fascismului , si fiecare principiu este documentat cu linkuri spre articole care descriu ce anume s-a intamplat. Aduni aceste "intamplari" si obtii o trasatura a fascismului. Dar "Cand noi il facem nu e fascism"

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1.) Powerful and Continuing Nationalism: Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2.) Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights: Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3.) Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause: The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4.) Supremacy of the Military: Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5.) Rampant Sexism: The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

6.) Controlled Mass Media: Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7.) Obsession with National Security: Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses

8.) Religion and Government are Intertwined: Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9.) Corporate Power is Protected: The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10.) Labor Power is Suppressed: Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11.) Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts: Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

12.) Obsession with Crime and Punishment: Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations

13.) Rampant Cronyism and Corruption: Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections: Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
Pe site toate aceste afirmatii au in spate fapte reale - articole si povesti, din ziare si surse respectate. Unite ne dau o imagine a extremei drepte in actiune, lucrul acela de care nu suntem siguri daca trebuie sau nu sa ne ferim

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Fascism (IPA: [ˈfęː.ʃɪ.zm̩]) is a political ideology and mass movement that seeks to place the nation, defined in exclusive biological, cultural, and/or historical terms, above all other sources of loyalty, and to create a mobilized national community.[1] Many different characteristics are attributed to fascism by different scholars, but the following elements are usually seen as its integral parts: nationalism, authoritarianism, militarism, corporatism, collectivism[2], anti-liberalism, and anti-communism. For further elaboration, please refer to fascism and ideology.

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Scris 13 January 2007 - 02:41 PM

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3...q=fascism%2BUSA - un film de 14 minute "America de la libertate la fascism"

http://www.oldameric...y.org/14pts.htm

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"Less access than Kazakhstan. Fewer fail-safes than Venezuela. Not as simple Republic of Georgia. The 2004 Elections according to international observers.
As for electronic voting, Gould said he preferred Venezuela's system over the calculator-sized touchpads in Miami.

"Each electronic vote in Venezuela also produces a ticket that voters then drop into a ballot box," Gould said. "Unlike fully electronic systems, this gives a backup that can be used to counter claims of massive fraud."


Dupa cum se vede observatorii internationali ai alegerilor prefera sistemul din Venezuela
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Scris 14 January 2007 - 02:43 AM

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3...amp;q=Olbermann - Habeas Corpus nu mai exista in USA. Nu e nici o "teorie a conspiratiei", e lege - Patriot Act
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Scris 14 January 2007 - 02:08 PM

cam asa e, nu te contrazic
venezuela kinda rocks :scare:
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Scris 15 January 2007 - 03:16 PM

Aici ce face Bush cu Constitutia USA, sau "Bush vs Constitutie", da sa fie iertat e mai prost el asa
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3...amp;q=olbermann

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publ...icle_7779.shtml
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"I don't give a goddamn," Bush retorted. "I'm the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way."

"Mr. President," one aide in the meeting said. "There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution."

"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face," Bush screamed back. "It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"

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Scris 16 January 2007 - 01:59 PM


Un senator avertizeaza in Congresul American, despre un posibil "gulf of Tonkin incident", care sa faca USA sa atace Iranul.
Stiati ca Vietnam a inceput cu atacul de catre vietnamezi in golful Tonkin a unei nave americane, azi toata lumea stie ca americanii s-au atacat singuri.
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Scris 17 January 2007 - 09:48 AM

cam ai dreptate in tot ce zici tu acolo ... dar din partea mea ... ar putea sa`si traga o nucleara`n fund ca tot nu ma intereseaza atata timp cat noi nu suntem afectati. ei. tu deja incerci sa subliniezi o anumita conspiratie. nu`i nimic rau in asta... ideea e ca americanii de rand ... au habar .. dar ce ar putea sa faca? ai vazut cum sunt alegerile la ei. mai mai sa numere de 5 ori voturile sa fie siguri. si daca tot esti in genu asta de chestii, iti recomand prison break. aia de acolo au pus in film o idee foarte interesanta. cum ca presedintele pana la urma urmei e ales de corporatzii ... e ales in functie de cat de usor ar putea fi manevrat. cat despre bush ... atata timp cat e presedintele americii, cine poa` sa`i faca ce? poate ar fi cativa care ar dori sa`l schimbe, dar astia sigur sunt in minoritate.
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Scris 17 January 2007 - 11:44 AM

Ne afecteaza si pe noi. OPEC sunt un cartel al petrolului. Sub lege internationala carteluri care sa tina un pret ridicat artificial sunt ilegale, si asta face OPEC, taie productia cand vede ca scade pretul, sa nu piarda.
Spui ca nu putem face nimic, eu am o teorie : cu cat oamenii stiu mai mult cu atat mai bine, oamenii informati vor crea o societate mai buna
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Scris 18 January 2007 - 04:40 PM

Noile lagare de concentrare FEMA - Federal Emergency Management Agency, in America.

De ce un loc unde duci oamenii sa ii salvezi de un uragan sau asa ceva, arata ca Auschwitz, si are garduri de sarma ghimpata inclinate spre interior ?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=27...n+concentration

Povestea unui om care a vizitat un asemenea lagar
http://www.abovetops...forum/fema.html

Raspunsul guvernului
http://www.abovetops...a_rebuttal.html

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Scris 19 January 2007 - 12:39 AM

Vezi postareawhistler, la Jan 17 2007, 11:48 AM, a spus:

cam ai dreptate in tot ce zici tu acolo ... dar din partea mea ... ar putea sa`si traga o nucleara`n fund ca tot nu ma intereseaza atata timp cat noi nu suntem afectati. ei. tu deja incerci sa subliniezi o anumita conspiratie. nu`i nimic rau in asta... ideea e ca americanii de rand ... au habar .. dar ce ar putea sa faca? ai vazut cum sunt alegerile la ei. mai mai sa numere de 5 ori voturile sa fie siguri. si daca tot esti in genu asta de chestii, iti recomand prison break. aia de acolo au pus in film o idee foarte interesanta. cum ca presedintele pana la urma urmei e ales de corporatzii ... e ales in functie de cat de usor ar putea fi manevrat. cat despre bush ... atata timp cat e presedintele americii, cine poa` sa`i faca ce? poate ar fi cativa care ar dori sa`l schimbe, dar astia sigur sunt in minoritate.


e ales de corporatii si in realitate
ca doar nu or lasa oamenii destepti din america tara pe mana prostimii
de aia a ajuns america unde a ajuns, pentru ca au perfectionat un sistem in care iti asiguri autoritatea asupra poporului creandu-i o realitate de care sa fie multumit indeajuns de mult (si lucrand atatea sute de ani si la felul in care trebuie sa gandeasca poporul)

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